Carnera in the post Lewis era?

well if he had been in that time period,he would have learned to fight properly like a big man not a timid one who left himself WIDE open for counter shots wouldn't he?? lol

IF we had to REINVENT him,( fantasy land) well i guess he would be about a Grant level but not as polished ? Who knows bc he couldnt punch for his time despite being 250 pounds or so against MUCH smaller guys,so now hes going to be competing with ACTUAL guys his own size who were around 6'4 240 on average.

Byrd/Haye /povetkin pound him in pretty good,the rest like Wach( actually could box and take a punch) Valuev( a more polished Carnera also outweighes him by 50 plus pounds)..and Pulev( looks like Ali compared to Carnera) ...also beat him.Most of the athletic guys defeat Carnera,and i would also put money on Jameel McCline the 6'7 giant who also could box well.

Its like the same old story of THIS or THAT guy dominates any era but failed to win in some what would be easy fights back then if that were the case against much easier and smaller guys to hit.

 

Maybe about like Kali Meehan, but he'd be lucky to not get bombed out by Brewster.

 

He would probably hold a belt at some point, but I doubt that he would unify.

He might have been the #1 guy in the division briefly if the cards fell in the right way.

Here is what he is up against:

2004
Vitali Klitschko, Champion

1. Chris Byrd
2. John Ruiz
3. Hasim Rahman
4. James Toney
5. Monte Barrett
6. Andrew Golota
7. Fres Oquendo
8. Jameel McCline
9. Corrie Sanders
10. Lamon Brewster

2005
Title Vacant

1. Chris Byrd
2. Hasim Rahman
3. James Toney
4. Lamon Brewster
5. John Ruiz
6. Monte Barrett
7. Calvin Brock
8. Wladimir Klitschko
9. Samuel Peter
10. Nicolay Valuev

 

I doubt he'd be Ring rated. But he might have been lucky and given a shot at a title, even so - a la Wach, Pianeta, Leapai.

Truth is, Carnera wouldn't have stood out in the increasing plethora of big men that followed Lewis, along with the Grants, McClines, Valuevs, the Klitschko Brothers, etc. etc. He wouldn't be considered the phenomenon today that he was back in the '30s.

Either of the Klitschko's would have retired him.

 

Ridiculous.

Audley Harrison got rated without beating anybody close to being anybody.

Even if he was as bad as you say he would get in somewhere.

 

When did Audley Harrison appear in the Ring's Annual Ratings?

 

I am not sure if he was in the annual ratings, but he was definitely in the monthly ratings.

 

If he was, as you assert, 'definitely' listed amongst the Ring's Top-10 Heavies then I would appreciate it if you could provide the period and timeline he was listed there.

While it does happen now and then, it is unusual for a Boxer to break into the Ring Ratings and not remain in the listings long enough to appear in their Annual Ratings - Unless, for example, their success has been quite fleeting in the early part of the year, followed by an utter catastrophe in the latter part.

I can honestly say I think it unlikely that Audley Harrison ever did enough to be Ring rated. His best wins were against Danny Williams (2006) and Michael Sprott (2010), neither of whom I can imagine being near the Heavyweight Ring ratings and neither victory being worthy of a placement there.

 

It was a while before he beat Sprott or Williams.

 

I don't think he ever made it there. But, I'm prepared to be corrected, if sufficient evidence is provided.

As I mentioned before, I think Carnera would be lucky to find himself ranked there. As shallow as the post Lewis era became, there was enough talent to stop Primo from replicating what he did in the '30s.

 

What he did in the 30s was become the undisputed champion.

You are talking about preventing him from breaking the Ring top 10, which basically means that he has to be losing to guys like Audley Harrison was beating in 03 and 04.

As for Harrison’s ranking, it is hard to track down the relevant monthly rankings from back then, but he was basically in the bottom of every major ranking back then.

Some people really thought that he was going to be the next big thing.

 

As I've made clear, I don't think Audley was ever ranked. He doesn't show up on the two lists that you yourself have posted for 2004 and 2005. But, in any event, that's not really the point.

I don't think it's too much of a reach to speculate that Carnera would not be the novelty act that he had been, back in the 30s. So, bearing in mind he'd need to be offered the opportunities in order to make his way into the rankings, I can't see what he brings to the table in terms of spectacular results, in the modern age, amongst a myriad of Super Heavyweights.

I've mentioned that he might get lucky and be offered a shot at the title, even without being Ring ranked - it happens. But, Carnera would never win and hold a major strap, in the post-Lewis era.