Carnera v Baer: perspective on quitting

Exactly quitting like that was totally unheard of in those days. Look at Wilard v Dempsey granted willard did finish on the stool but he was downed 7 times in the first round and was beaten again before he could straighten up he also had his jaw and nose broken in the 1st min and continued another 2 rounds before his cornor wouldnt allow him to get up and he probably would have continued if allowed.
Just compared that to sam peter vs VK who got hit with a few jabs and realised he wasnt going to win so he quit

 

Not sure if comparing two different eras is fair. If we were there to see Willard-Dempsey then we would have been horrified that Willard did not just give up or the ref was not there to protect him from himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4&feature=related

 

i haven't watched that vid in awhile lol, that Willard had some ****ing heart on him.

 

Agree spoiled they are nowadays.

 

Man, Willard has a huge heart. The guy was taking a beating and knew he was going to continue to take a beating but he still kept getting up.

 

See that's part of it too - modern boxing fans have become squeamish, even in just the 30 years I've been following the sport. In the old days, fans would be PISSED if a fight was stopped before its natural conclusion, now many of them whine if it is NOT stopped!atsch

 

Say what you want about Carnera, but he had a fighter's heart the size of my house.

 

This whole 'quitting' thing seems to be a somewhat new phenomenon. I think fighters see other fighters quit and it has almost become acceptable. It is disgusting.

I was reading an article about Jake LaMotta recently and he said essentially and I am paraphrasing here:

"Back in my day you basically had to kill the other guy for a referee to stop a fight now as soon as someone gets a bloody nose or hit in the face the referee jumps in to end the fight"

and that is the damn truth too.

 

yeah. these guys are pussies. should fight 'till they go blind like calvin brock. should fight 'till they get killed. show a little heart. gotta die some way right. **** 'em. they are here for my entertainment. even ray robinson. everyone kisses his ass. he quit like a little ***** when fighting for the 175 .lbs title. what a sissy.

these fighters nowadays.

question: have i ever boxed?
answer: no, i'm not that dumb.

i have a college education, and a nice beer belly i've been working on for several years. i don't need to box. i have a real job.

 

or maybe smart...u ever try boxing...u should then take a headbutt on ur orbital and see how it goes

 

but in those 30 years have u ever been in a ten rd...actually a 3 rd WAR...do it and then talk about how they should risk death or permanent damage

 

Campbell has a right to be angry. That was a bad cut caused by an obvious head butt. The ref is an idiot or on the take?

 

You're not getting me here man - Campbell has a right to make whatever decision he wants, if he's willing to take the criticism. What I don't like are all the goddamn fans (or commentators) who whine for fights to be stopped too early when the fighters WANT to fight!!!atsch