Carnera was 270 lbs professional athlete, he could kill a man accidentally with arm punch, WTF?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Didn`t have his reach, he was basically spoiling.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    So you seem to be admitting that he had some idea how to use his reach effectively.

    Excellent!
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It’s a shame we never saw Carnera share a ring with Goofi Whitaker.
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both Peroni and Brown were ranked fighters, going in to '35, and Peroni in particular had had better results than Carnera, during '34. Brown might well have been showing better recent form, as well.

    But, that aside, the distinction you are now trying to introduce is irrelevant, since you have previously specified the number of rounds lasted, as the comparative value on which Louis opponents should be measured.

    You are now blatantly cherry-picking fighters and results, as well as characterizing Louis' ascendancy to support your point and, in turn, your perspective on Carnera. The problem is the fighters you are trying to distinguish from Carnera were probably doing as well if not better than the Ambling Alp, by that stage.

    Louis was still "on the way up", when he faced Carnera and he'd already beaten a fighter (or fighters) with better recent form than Carnera.


    You are not making sense. Gallico is clearly referring to how little Carnera had improved defensively, over the course of following his career; that Carnera didn't appear to be a big puncher, as well as how he had been a protected fighter under See.

    I do not see the dots you seem to be joining, in order to draw a conclusion that involves Carnera, Brown and Peroni?

    That said and since you bring it up, I think Brown and Peroni would have had a good chance against Carnera, at around that time.


    ...or that Louis took his sweet time, but disposed of Carnera effortlessly, nonetheless.

    Carnera was able to stay out of the way for a while, but he was wide open as soon as he dipped forward with his jab, which stemmed from a low-held left. I'd wager that Louis realized quite early on that he could pick his moment to step up his attack and be confident of taking Carnera out.

    It was more about a matter of time; not Carnera's defensive prowess.


    By this time, the two best fighters Carnera had faced were Baer and Louis. Both had mugged him. Carnera had indeed looked like a big, unmissable target, helpless to stop the assaults taken out on him; that saw him suffering multiple knock downs, collectively numbering in double-figures.

    If what you have described above is indeed Gallico's perspective, I don't find it incompatible, at all.


    I wasn't referring to what Blackburn said. Louis predicted the Fifth.


    But I do. He was spotting Carnera 84lbs. That can't be denied or ignored.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I'm not even sure he hit anyone who is alive to ask them about it right now. So, I think it's fair to say the dude could whack.