Carp vs Levinsky article

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  1. dempsey1234

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  2. dempsey1234

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    Dont know if you can open it but it has some quotes from various boxing people in the article on the Carp - Levinsky fight:
    Jack Kearns-"Will spill the beans for a Dempsey - Carp fight"
    Billy Gibson-"I wil have a good oral wager on Battling Levinsky"
    Tom O'Rourke-"It all depends on Levinsky's condition. I like Carp and will have a bet on him"
    George B Harris-"I have seen Levinsky, in a half dozen of his ring engagements and was very much impressed with his cleverness."
    George M Cohan-"It will be a great battle, Carpentiers aggressiveness will be offset by the defensive work of Levinsky"
    Benny Leonard-"Carpentier is a good two hand puncher, but who is he going to hit with Levinsky in the ring."
    George Engel-" Carpentier is a good man but I think Levinsky will prove to be too cagey for him"
    Jack Britton-" I dont care about betting, as a rule but I will make a wager of $5,000 on the cleverest light heavyweight in the ring, Levinsky."
    Tex Rickard-"Carpentier has a big chance of getting beaten. He will be up against one of the toughest, cleverest men in his class, next Tuesday night"
    Frank Keppell-I think Carpentier will win, he can hit"
    Leo B Flynn-I have not seen Carpentier in actual battle, but he will have to do more than whip the slow moving Heavyweights of Europe to give him a chance to beat Levinsky. I think Levinsky will win. The bout with that big poke Beckett didnt prove anything except the size of Beckett's heart."
    Willie Lewis-"Carpentier is a good two fisted fighter and a wonderfully fast boxer. I have not seen him go in six years and am not so sure of him against the speedy Levinsky, but if he is at his best, I think he will win."
    Otto Floto(Sports editor Kansas Post)-"I like Carpentier. He looks very fast, aggressive and wonderfully clever as a hitter."
    Jack Dempsey-"Levinsky, Darn it why could I get first crack at Carpentier?"
    Matt Hinkle(Cleveland Promoter)-"I have not seen the Frenchman fight really fight, but he will have to be a real wonder man to beat Levinsky."
    Senator Bill Lyons-" I dont make any bones about my opinion, I am for Levinsky. I think the Battler, will outgame, and outspeed the Frenchman."
    Jack Curley-"Why, you ought to know that I think Carpentier is a mortal cinch. He's wonderful."
     
  3. klompton2

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    I know of only two people on that list who had ever seen Carpentier box. Engel hadn't seen Carpentier box in 7 or 8 years and Willie Lewis by his own admission hadn't seen him box in 6. Jack Curley was Carpentier's American manager. Rickard, Kearns, and Dempsey all had an interest in building the Carpentier-Levinsky fight up in order to use it as a springboard for the Dempsey-Carpentier fight. So why exactly are we giving any weight to any of these peoples opinion? Post some of the articles detailing the fix. Nah, you wouldn't do that because it wouldn't suit your agenda. Mighty fine cherries you picked there. LOL.
     
  4. dempsey1234

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    I know of only two people on that list who had ever seen Carpentier box. Engel hadn't seen Carpentier box in 7 or 8 years and Willie Lewis by his own admission hadn't seen him box in 6. Jack Curley was Carpentier's American manager. Rickard, Kearns, and Dempsey all had an interest in building the Carpentier-Levinsky fight up in order to use it as a springboard for the Dempsey-Carpentier fight. So why exactly are we giving any weight to any of these peoples opinion? Post some of the articles detailing the fix. Nah, you wouldn't do that because it wouldn't suit your agenda. Mighty fine cherries you picked there.

    These are peoples opinions of the fight and they all seem similar in what they say, so everybody, all the others in that article were in cahoots to sell the Carp - Dempsey fight. A fight that you yourself said "including the argument that Dempsey-Carpentier was simply too big not to make." and this was was the feeling since 1919. Rickard, Kearns, and Dempsey, sure, but all the rest c'mon. People at the time were more informed about boxing news and goings on in the boxing world, they knew who Carp was. Just like we know about Greb without ever having seen him. Boxing was a way bigger sport in those days and was covered extensively. What was so wrong on what Engel and Lewis said? Nothing, this is what they thought based on what they knew.