Carwin basically looked like a poor mans Fedor last night.

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  1. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    During the first round he did exactly what Fedor would have done.

    Fedor would have landed a hard punch for sure, Brock would have legged it then hit the deck trting to cover up, then Fedor would have pounded the **** out of him with harder and more accurate shots.

    Or Fedor could have subbed him after softening him up.

    After seeing what Carwin did to Brock for most of the first round I can't see how Fedor would'nt have done exactly the same thing, but worse with a possible sub thrown in.

    Brock would'nt have survived the first round.:deal
     
  2. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    But Fedor isn't in the UFC:deal he doesn't have to worry about Brock,Carwin,Cain,JDS does he? he'll be prob fighting Hershall Walker next.
     
  3. RyDogg123

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    WTF! U cant come out and say he's a poor mans Fedor!! People round here need to jump of his dick man!

    Shane Carwin ****ed Mir in a round, raped Gonzaga in a round... If your doing that... your no1s poor man!!

    To even get in the position he was in he's a GREAT GREAT fighter... and i dont band that around. If they rematch.... Carwin knocks Lesnar out cold!
     
  4. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is ******ed.

    Fedor doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Carwin.

    Fedor has knocked two fighters out, Arlovski (wow) and Brett ****ing Rogers, he dropped Sylvia (which Couture did) but had to finish him on the ground.

    His entire career the knock on Fedor doesn't have much KO power, he floors the man with the worst chin in the division and all of a sudden he is George ****ing Foreman?

    Really, what on earth makes people think Fedor has more power than Carwin? It is a nonstarter.
     
  5. Tuffnutz

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    Argh Gonzaga, the man who gets his arse beaten by every top fighter he faces.

    And then there's Frank Mir, one of the most overated heavies in history and another man who gets beaten to death over and over again.

    Destroying Gonzaga and Mir dont impress me.

    When either of those guys get smashed noone is ever suprised.

    Yeah Carwin could KO and should have KO'd Brock but he did'nt.

    If he'd have picked his shots better, like Fedor would have Brock would have been stopped.

    He did to Brock what Fedor would have done, but did'nt have the refined tools or gas tank to get the job finished like Fedor would have.

    Fedor is great. Carwin is FAR from great.

    Fedor would have smashed Brock last night.
     
  6. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    until Fedor fights in the UFC it's a would have could have, he got subbed by Werdum in a minute so he is human and is beatable. I'd like to see him fight Overeem next.
     
  7. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who has Fedor ever KO'd?

    If 4 minutes of absolute ass beating by a guy who clearly HITS MUCH HARDER THAN FEDOR can't put Lesnar away, what makes you think a guy who spent his whole career not KOing people would have KO'd Lesnar?

    Most of the defining fights of Fedor's career went to decision, not a knock on him as a fighter, but it shows he doesn't have this magical devestating KO power that he suddenly developed when Arlovski jumped into a right hand and when he happened to KO the worst HW to ever get a title fight, the absolute worst.
     
  8. Tuffnutz

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    Who the **** has Carwin KTFO really? :lol:

    He has 3 proper KO's against two bums and Frank Mir.:lol:

    Noone knows who hits the hardest but to say that Carwin hits WAY harder is bollocks.

    Fedor has more powerful G & P too. He's the the most brutal G & P puncher of all time and does it harder and better than Carwin.

    Fedor woudl have smashed Brock into pieces last night.

    Bottom line is that Carwin fougth Brock like a poor mans Fedor and could'nt finish and job that Fedor would have. :deal
     
  9. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everybody he has ever fought, that's who. 12 of them, in the first round.

    Fedor wasn't even knocking out bad fighters, he NEVER KO'D ANYBODY UNTIL ARLOVSKI, and that required Arlovski to literally jump into a punch. Fedor just does not KO people very often, that was the case his entire career, even at his very best.

    Who did Fedor KO with GnP? It looks powerful, it sounds powerful, but it doesn't finish people.

    Fedor just got handled, his stock isn't exactly high right now.
     
  10. AJAX

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    But Fedor won't fight any of them will he?:deal He beat a prime Nog in 2004.
     
  11. Tuffnutz

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    The way Fedor fights is the reason why he does'nt KO people more.

    Ive never seen anyone land G & P punches like the ones Fedor landed on Big Nog.

    Fedor clearly hits hard as **** standing too.

    Ths idea that Carwin hits WAY, WAY harder is rubbish.

    All this **** talk as well about Cain being pillow fisted.

    You say that Carwin has 12 fights and first round finishes but he only has 7 actually TKO's.

    Cain has 8 fight's and 7 TKO's.
     
  12. Tuffnutz

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    Fedor will fight Overeem and Werdum next.

    Hell beat them both, then go to the UFC and take the title from whoever holds it.

    He'll do a Lewis and avenge his loss to Werdum like he did to TK.

    Hell go down in history as the GOAT and having defeated every man he ever faced.

    Fedor will be more focused, more hungry and dangerous than ever now. :deal
     
  13. Beebs

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    He may well beat Brock, he is more than good enough, but he would beat him with his real skillset, grappling, likely from bottom.

    To infer that Fedor would have finished him standing when Carwin, a guy with an actual history of huge power didn't is just clutching at straws.

    Fedor might have won, but not if the fight went the same way; he has had tons of opponents hurt on the ground, but agaisnt legit ones he either subs them or wins a decision.

    He very well also might have gotten underneath Brock, pinned to the floor an been grinder to either a decision or finished.
     
  14. AJAX

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    Fedor will not fight in the UFC and you know it:deal He will be lucky to get by Overeem, however I think he will beat Werdum in a rematch. Fedor should retire before he get's defeated again and then I will have to listen to excuses and how he beat former UFC champs
     
  15. Tuffnutz

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    I never said fedor woudl have finished him standing.

    I said he could have hit him standing in exactly the same way Carwin did with the same result.

    Fedor has the punching power to make brock do exactly what Carwin did.

    He has the G & P power, accuracy, patience and gas tank to finish Brock where carwin could'nt.

    He alos has the submmission skills to sub Lesnar while he was on his back.

    Also, Carwin did'nt even hit Brock with his best shot.

    With the way Brock reacted to getting hit on his feet its possible that Carwin could have just put him to sleep with one shot if he landed his best.

    Same goes for Fedor if he landed a Brett Rogers style bomb on Lesnar.

    Both Carwin and fedor have the power to hurt lesnar, possibly finish him off with one shot if they land there best.

    Both of them are clearly hard punchers, regardless of Fedors KO percentage.

    I did'nt like the way Brock racted to being hit at all.

    The idea that noone can KO Brock and he has an iron chin :lol: because Carwin did'nt is ridiculous.

    Carwin did'nt even land his best shots.

    Carwin coudl fight him again and land different, more effective and powerful shot's.

    Fedor could land harder shots and more accurate shots than the ones Carwin landed last night.

    What happens if Cain lands that nasty right hand he landed on Big Nog and follows up with those G & P shots?

    WHat happens if JDS clocks him?

    Big Country could KO Brock and it would'nt suprise me.

    Brock dont like getting hit and did'nt react well at all.