Carwin: "Fedor Is Fighting Freak Shows And Ex UFC Champs"

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  1. snakerattle79

    snakerattle79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    http://www.mmabay.co.uk/Story 02518.html

    In an EXCLUSIVE interview with MMABay, UFC heavyweight number one contender, Shane Carwin gave his thoughts on Fedor Emelianenko recently signing with Strikeforce, saying the Russian could have gone down as the greatest of all time but he chose to seek protection, just as he has done in recent years.

    When asked about the recent comments made that Strikeforce offers Fedor a better challenge at heavyweight, Carwin scoffed:

    “LOL who made that comment? Strikeforce offers Fedor protection just like the other promotions that he has fought for. Fedor could have went down as the wealthiest and best fighter in the history of MMA if he had continued to test his legacy.”

    “Instead he has fought in freak show events or ex “UFC” title holders that would not be fighting on the preliminaries in the current UFC. The best heavyweight in the world is Brock Lesnar. He just beat Frank Mir to prove it. Fedor is going to become irrelevant at Strikeforce.”

    Much has been made in the MMA world of Fedor’s decision to sign with the Strikeforce and whether it was solely motivated by the co-promotional agreement between the California based promotion and M-1 Global. His first test will come against the much bigger Brett Rogers sometime before the end of the year and a loss to the Minnesota native will mean the Russian’s decision will spectacularly backfire on him.
     
  2. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol @ ufc heavyweights taking shots at fedor. I bet dana white is paying them to say crap about fedor. Fedor just beat 2 ex ufc champs back to back and was about to fight the 2nd best heavyweight in barnett but barnett got caught cheating.
     
  3. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not entirely false...

    I guess the best way to force everyone in the UFC to shut the **** up once and for all would be to have either Nogueira or Crocop as ufc champs. But it's not likely to happen. (though not entirely impossible).

    Not to mention , even if this happens... Fedor better hope never to lose a single fight at strikeforce. It's a very risky move for both M1 & Fedor. He's not allowed to make a single mistake for the duration of his 3 fight deal over there.

    Even though what Carwin is saying is not entirely false...

    Ufc's hw talent pool isn't "that" much superior... Lesnar's wrestling is solid but he's still a rather one dimensional guy (who takes advantage of his size).

    Gonzaga did lose twice to Werdum. (and now werdum is fighting at strikeforce).

    Kongo once against Herring.

    Both crocop & Nogueira already lost to fedor.

    (werdum himself already lost to nogueira & arlovski).

    Yes , fedor at strikeforce is a waste but...who knows. Maybe he'll lose his next fight...and all of this will be irrelevant. and if he keeps on winning , more power to him.

    Maybe Nogueira can grab the ufc belt...maybe not.

    But lesnar , best hw in the world ? Not even close.
    The guy only has 5 fights in his resume.
    Was directly propulsed to a title shot after beating Herring...which is ridiculous.

    I also disagree on the fact that Fedor has always been protected.
    When he fought arlovski... he wasn't protected. Arlovski wasn't a ufc reject. He had a + 5 winning streak.

    He defeated Werdum , Rothwell....

    And rothwell is now fighting in the ufc and will soon be facing Velasquez.

    So apparently rothwell is "worthy" of fighting in the octagon but not andrei ? (he obviously kinda ruined his chances after getting owned by Rogers).

    So imo Carwin is a bit full of ****.....But just a bit.

    "Fedor could have went down as the wealthiest and best fighter in the history of MMA "

    Reality check..Fedor IS the best fighter in mma history already. Whether he wins or loses his next fight...He's already the best.

    But yeah...Everybody would rather see fedor in the ufc , including me. But it's not the end of the world either.

    He's got 3 fights left. Maybe he'll sign again...maybe he won't.
     
  4. phonk

    phonk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shane who??
     
  5. Monoxide

    Monoxide Active Member Full Member

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    He is just saying what most everybody else is saying. Pretty much true too.....sadly
     
  6. Weber

    Weber Active Member Full Member

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    :nut
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You dig :thumbsup
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Not in the slightest. All there repeating is a load of bull**** spin from the UFC because of bullish marketing.
    Freak shows? Last i looked Tim and AA WERE UFC champs once. Now there freakshows? What about Fedor's bout with Barnett? Another freak show right. Granted that never happened and now Fedor signs a more lucrative contract with Strikeforce takes on one of MMA's rising prospects and the UFC propoganda machine goes into full tilt. This is just utter bull****.
     
  9. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thread closed. Seriously since that deal went through I don't think any UFC fighter is contractually allowed to say good things about fighters not in the UFC. And believe, something like that WOULD be in UFC contract or even an "order" by Dana White(that's right, a ****ing order), freedom of speech doesn't exactly work with their contracts.
     
  10. Monoxide

    Monoxide Active Member Full Member

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    What about the spectacular exhibition match against Mousasi? lol You're right though. Fedor hasn't been in a freak show fight since Man choi
     
  11. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    Take a look at other forums around the net you will find the vast majority of fans don't like that he has signed with strikeforce. I was impressed that he was going to fight Barnett I thought they would avoid each other for ever. Do you think Dana would let guys avoid each other like they did and let Fedor-Zulu fights take place. Fedor was getting back on the right track in Affliction but now he's going to fight just about anybody with Strikeforce. He's clearly the best that's why it's frustrating because fighting the best isn't the most important thing for him.
     
  12. scurlaruntings

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    Id hardly call that a freak show. Choi is a striker in the K1. He's also 7ft and well over 300lbs. Whats the essential diffrence between him and Lesnar except UFC fans finding more of an affinity with Brock because he's a wrestler? Was Fedor's fight with Schilt a freak show? What about Wes Sims is he also another freak?

    225lbs of Fedor at 6ft went up against a man that outweighed him by well over 100lbs and is taller by a foot. Thats a VERY BIG deal whatever way you want to spin it. You find me another heavyweight that size that can pull out an armbar on a man that size let alone control him from guard and il pay attention..
     
  13. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Fedor's paid his dues in this sport. Being compensated is high on his agenda now. As it is for EVERY fighter in MMA. As it is for the UFC organisation. Welcome back to the dessert of the real. This is business. Additionally there is no difference between guys like Cain Carwin Lesnar Mir and Werdum Overeem Rogers et al. Fedor is a 30 plus fight pro. Bringing up the Zulu fight in an attempt to discredit him is asinine.
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Dana learnt from the best.. Vince McMahon.
     
  15. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Carwin can **** himself in the corner.

    If he thinks he can compete with Fedor and wants to compete with Fedor, he should leave UFC and compete with Fedor.