Case for Mexican ATG?

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  1. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    and miller DEFINITELY has a case for top 10 all time feather. pretty impressive.
     
  2. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Turned Pro at the age of 16
    He beat Henry Armstrong when he was 20...
     
  3. Jorodz

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    that's incredible. and not a lot of footage? that's damn unfortunate. mexico's incredible fighting history has been interesting me more and more lately as debates about the greatest mexican fighter/s deepens the more you examine it. the world no longer begins and ends with chavez
     
  4. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    another forgotten man is Saldivar... but we can find video on him
     
  5. Son of Gaul

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    Hmmm...
     
  6. Jorodz

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    oh yeah, for sure. saldivar is pretty well respected and known but you're right: he's rarely included in the top mexican conversations. much like canto he's placed on a different level from the chavez-sanchez-olivares group
     
  7. ricardinho

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    ... We was literally called the "Golden Southpaw"

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-tv-zz-dOU[/ame]
     
  8. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    IMO These 4, in that order, should be written in stone as the top 4 from Mexico.
     
  9. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    definitely
     
  10. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So by your standards Ali is a bum for losing to Spinks who was 7-0-1 right?
     
  11. Addie

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    Where did I ever say Gonzalez was a bum? I said he doesn't make my top 5 at Light Flyweight and not just because others have a better resume than he does, but he wasn't very consistent with performances at his peak. If you must make such a ridiculous comparison, Ali was on his last legs when he was beaten by Spinks, Gonzalez was at his peak physically. He actually pulled out the win, I'm just saying a lot of his outings left me unimpressed.
     
  12. WhataRock

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    Top 10 Mexicans is a hardy...that number 10 spot has about 7 or 8 guys attacking it viciously, pushing hard to slip into the rankings whilst they all sit on equal 11.

    I dont think I would have any of those guys pushing for that spot however.

    Casanova is one guy Im looking a lot more into right now though...his record is very impressive for top shelf wins.
     
  13. Zopilote

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    I agree 100% with what you said. My top 9 list would look something like this:

    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Ruben Olivares
    Salvador Sanchez
    Vicente Saldivar
    Erik Morales
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Ricardo Lopez
    Miguel Canto
    Carlos Zarate
    ???????? <---- and that number 10 spot, like you said, is viciously attacked by the likes of Casanova, Arizmendi, Azteca, ect, ect....
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I like your list. I'd have Lopez lower though, below Canto and Zarate.
     
  15. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Thanks. Honestly i have no problem with EM and MAB switching spots and /or RL, MC, and CZ switching as well. Just the top 4 are written in stone for me, in that order too. :good: