Cassamayor's 3rd pro fight...

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  1. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He was horribly mismanaged as a pro. It was just the way they did things back then, before Arum took a chance with Lomachenko, but he could have won a title in his debut.

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuNObaXUIt0[/url]
     
  2. SOUTHERMOST

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    El Cepillo so smooth great fighter.
     
  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Excellent underrated fighter. Plus a Cuban who had a good chin and didn't quit when the going got tough.
     
  4. Santiago

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    As for the good chin very much the same as many other Cuban fighters including Yuniesky Gonzalez, Luis Ortiz, Sullivan Barrera, Yordanis Despaigne, ....
     
  5. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think there have been two problems with Cubans turning pro:

    1. They are older than they say they are

    2. In large part because of one, the moving, boxing style doesn't work for 12 rounds as well as it does for 3. It just takes too much energy to fight like that.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    p4p great pro Cuban defector.
     
  7. Babality

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    One of the very few Cubans with sturdy chins. Good fighter. Only got KTFO by JMM when he was shot and he gave JMM a very tough fight imo, it was even at that point IIRC.
     
  8. Limerickbox

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    I'm old enough to remember his beating McCullough in the olympic final in 1992
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Let me amend that: p4p GOAT of the modern era.

    Ahead of him you have Napoles (defected to Mexico) as well as both Kids (fought professionally for Cuba prior to Castro's ban).

    He's 2nd all time among defectors to USA, behind El Feo.

    Even including amateurs that never turned over he is still top 5 in the modern era (and that includes guys like Stevenson, Kindelán, Savon, Aragón...fine company)

    The closest to him is probably Rigondeaux, but while El Chacal was the more decorated amateur (though not by much! Casamayor was a beast even with headgear...) there's still lots of catching up to do to reach El Cepillo in the pros, and time isn't on his side.

    It remains to be seen how great Ramírez can end up being. Of all the current amateurs he stands the best chance of joining those ranks.

    Many projected such heights for guys like Solis or Gamboa - it just didn't pan out. Combining pro with amateur neither of them edges out Casa, IMO.
     
  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol: and i was born in 93
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Wow. :yep

    So to you the Cold War amounted to nothing but a cool breeze you heard about secondhand.

    It feels weird to have been part of the last ever "OMG, we're definitely all gonna die any day now!!" generation.

    ...but then, we had much less Islamic militant terrorism in those days to worry about. :!:

    Some, but not as much.
     
  12. Badbot

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    :D at least i get to call myself a 90s kid. (w/e that means)
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It means when you hear a discussion about Hackey Sacks you don't just assume that is someone's porn name. :conf
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    i was born just before the fall of the Berlin Wall. I hate the term millennial. I think ideology wise I have l have more in common with Generation X than I do than the selfie taking ice bucket challenge morons my age these days.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Funny, the Cold War actually has a bearing on how those of us old enough to remember it view the Cuban fighters.

    They were originally the enemy, just by virtue of nationality - and their Olympic heroes were something to be reviled, as they represented a slap in the face of the American way of life and their every success was like a kick in the nuts.

    ...but the defectors? :think

    They're sort of like Piccolo circa the Raditz saga, after having buddied up with Son-Goku. Formidable, respected ally but still bearing the aftertaste of slight mistrust.