Cassius Clay 62-63 vs. Riddick Bowe 91-92

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  1. sirhenrycooper6

    sirhenrycooper6 Guest

    2 ATGs,
    2 GR8 Primes!

    Who wins in 1 heavyweight BATTLE ?
    I wud take 1 atg like Bowe over Clay m'self.
    Bowe had all the "capabilities",
    to beat Clay.
    All the physical advantages, a long left jab , awesome hooks, and 1 excellent right cross.
    brilliant combos, heart, chin, and incredible will .

    Clay had no inside game , he could not tie Bowe up , he cud not beat Bowe at 1 outside game . to me Clay gets brutalized and punished after 5 rounds . Only his steel heart and "chin" wud keep him in the "match". MAYBE , clay wud go 1 distance .
     
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  2. thegoldenera

    thegoldenera Guest

    cooper ganchoooo :hat:lol:
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I've got to go with Bowe here.

    Who had Ali beaten by '63? I mean, sure, he'd dealt with Doug Jones, but aside from that? Just nobodies like George Logan and Henry Cooper.

    Bowe KO 7.
     
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  4. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Bowe put on a clinic,completely and utterly dominates him,and even throws in his own variation of the Ali shuffle before Clay looks for a way out by repeatedly smashing 'Big Daddy' in his big black balls.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    :rofl
     
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  6. sirhenrycooper6

    sirhenrycooper6 Guest

    ? I don't understand m8

    crosstrainer, 1 good post, but I have 1 problem.
    Cooper was no "nobody", he was 1 good contender, and gave clay hell , clay rly shud not have won , if he was not saved by 1 bell and by 1 smelling salts. even then , he 1 by cuts . Cooper , was 1 good fighter, underrated skills , and power.
    he was no "alltime great", but atleast better than,
    "clay" at one point .
     
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  7. cross_trainer

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    Now you're trying to inflate Ali's resume. :nono

    Men like Pierre Coetzer and Larry Donald would have run through Ali's pre-title opposition like a hot knife through butter.
     
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  8. sirhenrycooper6

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    4 wat it's worth , clay alrdy got loads of contenders on his resume , and great fighters , so no need 4 the garbage .

    Cooper was obviously 1 hell of 1 fighter , he did beat folley and other contenders , and I do think that 1 PRIME. Cooper , wud beat Donald , and Coetzer is too unpredictable .
     
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  9. cross_trainer

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    Ali only beat them because of luck and smelling salts.
     
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  10. sirhenrycooper6

    sirhenrycooper6 Guest

    Not true m8.

    this was only reported "once",
    And I do not "remember" one other time clay wa brutally kd'd,
    and saved by 1 bell.
     
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  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hello 'Enery. How's your 'Ammer ? You mention these two men's primes. You're right on the money with Bowe's being in 1991/92. However,the Cassius Clay circa 1962/63 was not a prime Muhammad Ali. Cassius was still growing at that juncture,physically and as a fighter. I'd still back him to beat a peak Bowe. If an overweight and over the hill Tony Tubbs can give a peak Bowe serious problems with his movement,then a far faster Cassius Clay,as was,could give him fits !
     
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  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol: @ this thread and our 'enry.
     
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  13. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Good ol' 'enry Cooper

    Reminds me of the good ol' days... British Bulldogs and blatant racism... y'know... **** like that.

    Ahhh memories.
     
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  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes 'Clay' would never be able to replicate the performance of the great Tony TNT Tubbs
     
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  15. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Enry? What are your thoughts on your son's recent comeback? I think he can take Vitali in decemeber! He has the power! He has the funk! He has the balls! I think your son, "The Count" Sir Bert Cooper will be Vitali's first real test and he will fail badly.
     
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