Cassius Clay Avoiding Eduardo Corletti

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Senor Pepe', Aug 25, 2012.


  1. TBooze

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    Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Senor Pepe' is just spinning his agenda. The beauty is if you look hard enough, you can find the opinion you require. Personal or organizational driven, opinion writing, is not the invention of the Internet. it has been around since the human could write.

    I would not assume the exact opposite of what he wrote. I would though question his sources and his often unreferenced work.
     
  2. Lord Tywin

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    Now he decisively defeated Chuvalo? Lord, when does it end. The AP scored the fight 4 rounds for Corletti, 3 for Chuvalo, and 3 even. That is hardly decisive. The UPI gave no card.

    You are also aware that despite losing to Corletti (who had been previously unranked), Ali, and Bonavena in 1966 Chuvalo (who was ranked third at the time of the fight) maintained enough status and reputation that he was considered ahead of Corletti as an alternate for Leotis Martin in the WBA elimination tournament until he lost to Joe Frazier.

    Im sure you also are aware that Corletti was held in such low esteem that Henry Cooper, who fought on the same card and was expected to face Chuvalo in an elimination for Ali, felt that Corletti's win knocked both Chuvalo and Corletti out of contention and raised his own case. In short there were hardly any calls for Ali to face Corletti. Canadian fans felt that the British preferance to boxing as opposed to fighting accounted for Chuvalo's loss as much as anything Corletti did.


    Id love to know who exactly outside of Corletti and his management (and I doubt they were either) was asking for an Ali-Corletti fight. Just that phrase: Ali-Corletti, sounds bad, like a 3 round TKO.


     
  3. Senor Pepe'

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    If Eduardo Corletti was 'so bad', how in the hell did defeat a 'worthy challenger' and
    'all-around tough guy' like George Chuvalo.

    After defeating the likes of 225 lb., American Heavyweight - 'record padder' Everett Copeland (4-11-3)
    by (KO 5) in November 1967 - in a nothing more than a warm-up fight, Eduardo was seeking to fight
    Italian Heavyweight Champion and Top-Ranked European Heavyweight - Piero Tomasoni in a National TV
    Fight to be broadcast throughout Italy.

    The WBA positioned Eduardo Corletti 22-2-5 (13 KO's) as the #9 Heavyweight.
     
  4. Lord Tywin

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    Are you going to answer my question or just attempt to redirect the conversation like you do whenever you cant back up what you are spouting off about?
     
  5. Senor Pepe'

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    Boxing News 'Preview'

    October 16, 1967

    Eduardo Corletti vs 'Playboy' Johnny Prescott

    Eduardo 'stopped' the 'Playboy Express' by winning a 'convincing' 10-Round Decision.

    The 'immensely' popular Prescott out of Birmingham, was riding a '6-bout' winning
    streak, and was regarded as the #2 British Midlands Area Heavyweight in 1967.

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  6. johnmaff36

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    looks like cassius clay aint the only one doing the 'ducking' in this thread:D
     
  7. Legend X

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    I don't think you can seriously argue that Chuvalo was the more credible challenger in March 1966.
    Corletti outboxed him clearly on January 25th, 1966.
    Chuvalo fought Ali on March 29th.

    Corletti was more credible at the time.
     
  8. Stevie G

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    How competitive does any realist figure Corletti would have been against Ali. I see it being as easy for Muhammad as the two George Chuvalo fights were. One major diffrerence - I doubt whether Corletti goes the distance.
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    January 25, 1966

    Olympia Hall - Kensington, United Kingdom

    Tale of the Tape

    George Chuvalo
    Age..........28 years, 4 months
    Record......34-10-2 (27 KO's)
    Ranking.....#4 Heavyweight
    Height.......6' 0"
    Weight......206 lbs.
    Style.........Brawler-Slugger

    Eduardo Corletti
    Age..........24 years, 5 months
    Record......11-2-5 (9 KO's)
    Ranking.....Un-ranked..(Not ranked in the Top 40)
    Height.......5' 10 1/2"
    Weight......191 lbs.
    Style.........Boxer

    On the line for George Chuvalo, is a 'Title Shot' with Heavyweight Champion - Cassius Clay.
    Mr. Chuvalo takes this fight, as what he thinks will be a 'stay busy warm-up bout', in preperation
    for a bout with Mr. Clay - set for the 'Spring of 1966'.

    George Chuvalo, the #4 Heavyweight, is an 'off-the-board' favorite against the 'unknown' Argentinian
    Eduardo Corletti, who is based in Rome, Italy. Chuvalo has been a 'main-stay' in the Top 10, by
    going 9-2-0 {8 KO's} over the past 2-years, only losing to Floyd Patterson (February 1965) and
    Ernie Terrell (November 1965).

    In his last bout, here in Kensington at the Royal Albert Hall in December, Chuvalo defeated veteran
    Joe Bygraves by a 'solid' 10-Round Decision.

    Prior to the fight with the 'burly' Canadian, 'El Gato' Corletti has not impressed, by only posting a poor
    1-2-4 (1 KO) record in his previous '7-bouts'. Eduardo's most impressive win, was in his last fight in October 1965
    at the Empire Pool in the United Kingdom, when he 'stopped' {TKO 8} 'highly regarded' Billy 'Golden Boy' Walker.

    Irving Ungerman, Chuvalo's Manager said, 'We were hoping to fight Henry Cooper here at the Olympia Hall
    for the British-Commonwealth Heavyweight Championship, but he 'pulled-out'. They found this Argentinian
    boxer in Italy who was ready to go, so we'll take him for a 'tune-up.' I've been told that he can box a little
    and punch a little, but that's all I know about him.'

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  10. Lord Tywin

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    Keep on avoiding a reasonable question...


    Actually on the line wasnt an Ali fight, it was a Cooper-Chuvalo fight with the winner of that fight to face Ali.

    Notice how nobody was calling for a Corletti fight afterwards except Pepe 46 years later?
     
  11. ron u.k.

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    :patschPlease Pepe No!! Johnny Prescott!!!! He was barely in the British Top Ten ranked. KO'd by both Floyd Patterson's and Henry Coopers little brothers! Oh and also beaten by Jack Bodell. He really pushes up Eduardo's resume up to legendary status!!:rofl
     
  12. Senor Pepe'

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    Winnipeg Press (January 26, 1966)

    George Chuvalo, 'This loss will set-back my program to challenge Clay. I cannot
    complain, I lost and Eduardo won. Honestly, fighting Cooper would have been easier,
    as he stands and fights. Eduardo just wouldn't stay still.'
     
  13. The Kurgan

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    Clear Ali nuthugger.

    If Ali was so good, then why didn't he fight Corletti, arguably the best heavyweight called "Eduardo" in the 1960s?
     
  14. The Kurgan

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    Not a prime Westphal.