Cassius Clay runs from Amos Lincoln, 1961

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  1. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amos Lincoln was willing to fight Cassius Clay for nothing in the 1961,
    and in Miami Beach.

    Lincoln did propose, that he would not take a fight purse, if Clay would agree to a June 1961 bout.

    Lincoln had put up a challenge thru the Miami News newspaper.
    Amos claimed that Cassius Clay's next bout, in June and in Las Vegas
    was versus a walking heavy-bag.......Duke Sabedong.

    Lincoln, said he was going to Las Vegas, and was going into Sabedong's dressing room before the fight,
    and lock him in a closet. 'I'll then run into the ring wearing Duke's robe, then Clay will have no place to go,
    and you'll see him run. And if he does run,,,,,,,,I'll chase him down because I'm faster.'

    The 25-year-old, 6' 2" 210 lb. Lincoln, has a record of 26-3-1 (17 KO's) and his considered one of the more dangerous fighters in the division, mainly because of his deadly right hand counter.
     
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  2. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amos Lincoln "Big Train" no doubt wanted an early seat on the potential "Money Train" but he was not the only Amos to shout for clay, Amos Johnson was often calling for Clay, reminding that he owned an amatuer Victory Over Clay, in an Article in boxing Illusutrated, Johnson also recalled how he Floored and handled George Chuvalo with ease in sparring. However he had Lost to Kent Green who Also had an Amatuer Victory over Clay, So if Cassius was going looking for pro revenge on anyone Mr. Johnson perhaps thought "He who shouts Loudest..." ?

    Both Amos's subsequently did any ranking apirations they might of harboured no good by both going out quickly and Tamely to a old Creaking Sonny Liston. who Amos used to regularly Spar, In truth both Amos's were starting to creak themselves at this stage

    "Big Train" Lincoln earlier seemed to be getting up a head of Steam when he was derailed by Lt Heavy Stylist Johnny Persol
    Both were good Fringe contenders who added their own bit of Ink to the 60's Heavy scene.

    As i recall a young Jerry Quarry benefitted from Sparring "Big Train" Lincoln
     
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  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good info.

    Lot's of interesting stories you are bringing up of the late 50's to mid-sixties days in boxing.

    The sports pages were full of good boxing info back then...and many regional favorite fighters...even if they weren't the best in boxing talent.
     
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  4. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amos 'Big Train", popular west-coast fighter, both in Oregon, and in California.
    Chin could be somewhat shaky, as his night-life activities took their toll on him.

    Would have been too much for a young Cassius Clay in mid-1961.
    Another one of those 'could-have-been' fighters.

    He did say, if he was 'white', he would have had at least '3' title shots.
     
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  5. klompton

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    What does it say about a guy who has been a pro for seven years when he calls out a guy with just six fights under his belt...
     
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  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amos was one 'strange cat'..

    But I think it had to do with Amos beating Duke Sabedong 3x in previous fights.
    Probably just looking to make some noise, and get his name in the press.

    You know Mr. Klompton,,,,,self-promotion wasn't only reserved for one
    Cassius Clay

    Remember, Cassius called out INGO, for $100,000 in a 6-Round bout.
    Of course, no one ever found out who was putting up the money,,,,,,,,
    because,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there was 'no one'
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
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  8. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amos Lincoln,,,,,,,,,,did scratch into the paint of Cassius Clay's Cadillac.

    'This ain't no Lincoln'
     
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  9. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    only turned professional 6 months ago after winning light heavy gold and is already being called out LOL.
     
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  10. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who in the blue hell is Amos Lincoln?


    Exactly!

    Know your role Man Duce and shut the **** up.
     
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  11. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you know any 1960's boxing history, Amos Lincoln a pretty good
    heavyweight, who was 'wild and crazy'.

    Just posted an article from The Vegas Sun, from 1961.

    Oh Pachilles, you can come over to my house now, your mother is done.
     
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  12. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To know so much about the 60's and type like you're writing a letter you must be atleast in your 60's, and you're busting out mother jokes, bro?

    What is your beef with Ali??
     
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  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    oh boy....

    :rofl



    That is one way to balance the opinions on this message board
    :happy
     
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  14. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's nothing more than a found article, with another fighter challenging another.

    What do you want to hear,,,,,another Muhammad Ali story about calling
    Floyd Patterson, 'The Rabbit'
    or that the U.S. Government ruined his career for 3 years.

    C'mon,,,,,,,,'variety is the spice of life'
     
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  15. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not this post in particular. I'm asking you in general, what your problem is with him? I get a vibe from you like you were involved in the fight game around that era or something:huh
     
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