Cassius Clay vs Brian London (August 6, 1966)

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Time Magazine

    'Feats of Clay'

    One must wonder why a talented Heavyweight Champion like Cassius Clay
    would fight a 32 year-old 'punching bag'.

    Brian London, the 'Blackpudlian' has been demolished several times,
    including by Henry Cooper and Floyd Patterson.

    And recently, 3-months ago, 23 year-old American - Thad Spencer
    umercifully battered Mr. London from pillar-to-post, in a one-sided
    10-Round bout here in the United Kingdom.

    Oh, less we forget 'The Blackpool Rock' did win a controversial 7-Round
    Disqualification win over U.S. Marine, Amos Johnson 6-weeks ago, in
    a bout where Mr. London was getting pushed around by the light-punching
    but tricky southpaw heavyweight.

    Cassius Clay's motives for fighting Brian London.

    A) A pressing need for money, as he must post a $50,000 alimony bond
    before August 27th, or go to jail.

    B) A fine regard for his personal safety, as London does not pose as any
    kind of threat.
     
  2. Senor Pepe'

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    British Sports Writer,

    Harold 'Super Mac' MacMillan

    It was 'The Non-Fight of the Year'

    I liken it to 'The Great London Gold Rush', as Cassius Clay had the
    easiest take ever seen in England.

    But, Promoters Jack Solomons and Lawrie Lewis look like the empty
    pockets here, as the they paid Brian London $112,000 (U.S. Dollars).

    Earls Court (capacity; 18,000) was only half-full, and thankfully the
    spectators only had to watch 7-minutes and 40 seconds of this farce.
     
  3. apollack

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    I think some are being unduly unkind to London. Sure he was no worldbeater, but he was a solid heavyweight. He went 11 rounds with a prime Patterson. He twice went 15 with Henry Cooper. No one stopped him from '62-'67, except Ali. He beat Howard King, Tom McNeeley, lost in 12 to Ingemar Johansson, in 15 to Cooper, in 10 to Thad Spencer. No he wasn't a threat to Ali, but he was veteran and experienced enough and had shown enough durability that he was likely going to go rounds with Ali in a losing effort. The early blowout was impressive. Even after that fight, through '67, London was still a durable guy, losing in 10 to Quarry and winning a 10-round decision over Folley. He fell apart after that. Point is, no he wasn't a top contender, but as of '66 he had shown that he was solid enough at that point in his career to go rounds with top guys, including some big punchers. Hence, Ali's domination and early annihilation has to be viewed as impressive.
     
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    apollack,

    No disrespect to the 'Blackpool Rock',

    Just in August 1966, he was the right guy at the right time for Cassius Clay.

    He leaped from #18, over '17' more deserving challengers.

    In his previous '23-bouts' dating back to 1959, Mr. London had posted a 13-10-0 record.

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  5. Legend X

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    Angelo Dundee accepted the fight because he figured it would be "like stealing candy from a baby" (I think that was the phrase he used).
    Easy easy money.
     
  6. Collie

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    To be honest it seems, to the untrained eye, like Senor Pepe has something against Muhammad Ali, judging by recent posts saying Floyd Patterson was crippled with a bad back, Liston fights were fixed and discrediting Brian London.

    Yes he wasn't the best Ali has faced. But what champion faces number 1 contenders in every fight?

    Question: were all the newspapers at the time (1966) calling Ali 'Cassius Clay?' He changed his name two years earlier. I wonder was it a gradual process or was his name change not accepted until the 70's due to his politics, I know he wasn't well liked at the time.
     
  7. Legend X

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    Well, he'd been famous as Cassius Clay for about 4 or 5 years.
    If Wladimir Klitschko changed his name tomorrow, would WE start calling him by his new name ?
    I doubt I would.
     
  8. ron u.k.

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    Well Pepe even the great Joe Louis had his "bum of the month" campaign. A great heavyweight champ like Ali is entitled to his easy money now and again,and London wasn't really that bad.
    I mean you mention Ali being concerned about his "personal safety" that's why he ducked Liston,Frazier,Foreman,Shavers,Bonavena,Lyle,Quarry,Norton etc.
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    'Feats of Clay'

    Is a Time Magazine article from August 12, 1966.

    And that news magazine still called him Cassius Clay.

    All news media referred the Heavyweight Champion, as Cassius Clay.

    Every Newspaper, and news organization (Associated Press and United Press International)
    referred to the Heavyweight Champion as Cassius Clay.


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  10. BillB

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    Did he ever change his name?
    I've never seen where he went to court for a name change. Maybe he did.

    I've heard clips of Cosell referring to him as Cassius Clay as late as 1966 or 1967. Cosell was deeply in Ali's pocket- his chief sycophant.
     
  11. groove

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    ali was fighting constantly so a few easy ones are a given. has any heavy champ since defended his title 7 times in a year?

    maybe you pepe wanted ali to be defending his title 12 times a year.
     
  12. crippet

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    Bear in mind England had just won the Football world cup there would have been a buzz about English sportsmen competing at world level then
     
  13. Smashgar

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    Okay guys Senor Pepe has convinced me with his random-ass threads about Ali's amateur career and occasional easy fights. Muhammad Ali sucks now. We all agree. Senor Pepe can quit posting now.
     
  14. Legend X

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    I like the threads about Ali's amateur career.
    I see a lot of Ali fans getting upset by Senor Pepe's threads, so maybe they should make some threads about Ali's amateur career or lesser known fighters of the era. :good
     
  15. Senor Pepe'

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    Easy Groove,

    Were talking about Brian London,,,,,

    The Associated Press said that 'the champion was scraping the bottom
    of the barrel'.

    Lets not forget, only about 9000 spectators showed up for that bout
    at Earl's Court.

    Of course $290,000 for Cassius, was one of the 'easiset paydays in
    modern history'.