Hatton landed a much better, cleaner, harder shot than Hopkins did vs DLH. This was NO DIVE, it was a hard sweeping hook to the backside and bottom of the rib cage and JLC wasnt expecting or prepared for it. Oscar certainly put on more of a show:hey
dumb****atsch ...why are you hatton fans so damn sensitive? It's an observation...I'm not trying down Hatton. Btw...I'm from a boxing family...and boxed most of my life, I think I know what I saw...the fight was close, until the bodyshot...so don't get your panties in a bunch, I not a Castillo fan.
THat shot definately looked like it hurt. Could he have gotten up? Perhaps, but maybe the pain and the potential for more to come was too much for Castillo. I certainly don't think that Castillo dove. Not tried hard enough to get up? you can make an argument for that but how many of us would have even tried to get up from a shot like that?
Geppy don't be a ****ing idiot...I wasn't going for Castillo, so there's no reason to look for an excuse...it's my observation. Everybody knows that I'm Rican, and I feed off these Mexican losses but I see what I see...that's all.
From my other posts it's evident that I'm not a Hatton fan. NEITHER Castillo or DelaHoya took a dive. Carlos: I remember you mentioned that you boxed (or maybe still do). Clearly, you've never taken a perfect liver shot or you'd know better than to use the loaded word dive. If Jose (or Oscar) were told that their lives depended on getting vertical inside of 10 seconds, they could have done it. But continue the fight in that kind of agony? No neither one could. It's unlikely any normal person could. Even if you get up, you're about to be KO'd unless the round is over, and in a more painful and humiliating fashion. You cannot fight in extreme physical discomfort and hope to be competitive. Hatton KO'd the man, fair and square. (so did BHOP, in Oscar's only convincing loss)
somewhat..but do did tzu...hatton somthers u and does not let u breath.....it makes guys say "**** it I dont have a chance"!
well, yeah maybe...I don't think he went into the fight thinking he was going to take a dive by any sense...but the opportunity came by a hard body shot...and he thought "why not here"...I beleive when you're able to get up, and don't, It's a dive. Yes I beleive he thought " is the punishment worth continuing" I guess not.
I'm not really sure Castillo quit, it was a well placed shot... if he did though, he gave a lot less than Tszyu did before he threw in the towel. Tszyu was pretty much gone, he was getting beaten up, didn't have anything left to get the KO, and wasn't going to win on points with one round left.
Gatti KO'd Dorin with a pretty huge hook to the liver too if memory serves me, its not like these kind of KO's are unheard of.
I guess i'm of the school of thought that a dive involves being payed to take the fall, i'm sure Castillo didn't take a cheque from Warren telling him to lie down in the 4th.
I think people were just expecting more from the fight, the anti-climax is creating all of the **** talking.
Let me ask you a question. Do you realy think he lost because of that? If you think the reason he lost was because of that, then I can tell you that it is BS. I told my son that DLH was past it and therefore he was going to lose against PBF. I told my son that Mayorga was going to lose against Tito because the fight was going to be at 160 and Mayorga had a car accident and did not train properly. I told my son that DeJesus lost against Duran because of the heat in Panama City that day. I can tell you many stories. Do you know what I mean? I am not trying to be an a$$ here, but we have to realise that even though there are some hurdles that every fighter has to face, most of the time they are defeated because the other fighter is better. Period. We can talk/say whatever we want but the fact is that most of them were/are defeated without any doubt. Do you give credit to Hatton for defeating JLC? YES OR NOT?