Castillo definitely took a dive...

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  1. sandwichsurgeon

    sandwichsurgeon Active Member Full Member

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  2. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, can someone to me explain how the US fans and boxing establishment are taking it on the chin because some people aren't thrilled that Hatton KO'd a Mexican, not a Mexican American, but a MEXICAN fighter. It's also hilarious to see half of these brain deads crying and crying about anti-white and anti-European racism in the States. Is that some kind of bad joke? Are people really that bereft of knowledge regarding the social dynamics in this country. If anything, American promoters and networks WANT successful white fighters on television because there are plenty of Americans who would be much more interested in rooting for white fighters from other countries than non-white talent from right here in the States. Sad, but true and anyone who denies that fact has their head lodged firmly inside of their rectum.


    BTW This is ESB. Top fighters get trashed here after big victories all of the time. It's funny how no one gives a **** when it's someone they despise, but as soon as some goes after their guy, it's :neutral: :crybaby :neutral: :crybaby :neutral: :crybaby.

    I realize that our idiot President has made us very unpopular around the world in the last few years, but I've just about had it with the America bashing when the discussion doesn't even come close to merting it.
     
  3. joito3

    joito3 Active Member Full Member

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    i don't think castillo took a dive but de la hoya sure did ! You see the difference kiddies !!! castillo is frozen and can't move while dlh pounds the mat and rolls around like a toddler !
     
  4. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    ya just watched the fight again in sobriety and that was a perfect shot! One of the best I've everseen.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    it wasn't just that one shot...it was an accumulation...at least 5 bodyshots to that side in that round...that kind of strategy perfectly executed would have taken anyone out sooner or later...Ricky was ready for WAR!!! HE WASN'T JOKING!!!...But not the kind of war that Castillo expected, with swings to the head...Hatton swung just to get close to Castillo, and either clinch or...more often than not...deliver the bodyshots.
     
  6. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    hook and clinch hatton like harold said.
    ricky started the clinch and the ref did nothing and when castillo tryed to fight back with his on tactics, cortez took a point and i dont even remembering hearing a warning from cortez.plus castillo was not getting paid and i think he knew he was not going to win ud over hatton and just said **** it im done.

    he left so fast after the fight, no interview or nothing.just sayed thanks to hatton and then he left.old or shot, i think castillo either took a dive or he just gave up in hte 4th round.

    the body punch was good, i just think castillo just sayed **** it.castillo could not get off any punches because of the clinches ricky started and then when he hit some what south of the border he was deducted a point.

    so by fourth round it was clear that castillo was going to need a ko to win.and his style of inside fighting his different from rickys.castillo likes to stand in front and just lean forward and throw.hatton throws 2 or 3 punches and then holds and hits.the ref breaks them up and then he does it all over again.

    castillo sayed the hell with this ****, the hell with the god damn band playing during the fight, the god damn singing and the hell with the fight.he got hurt with the body blow and just sayed im done.but it was a comboniation of a few things then just the body blow.i think the way the fight was going, the holding and the point being taken away was enough for castillo to say **** it.

    and no damn money.good fight hatton but you get little credit for this one.
     
  7. grayggr

    grayggr Active Member Full Member

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    Let me get this right...

    60+ Fights, Castillo has never been counted out if I am right (Hatton the first boxer to do so). One of the most courageous fighters over the last 5-10. Yet he dived?

    Lets get real here. He got hit by a man whose body punch power is on another level. No one works the body like Hatton. Look at several of his past fights when he has employed a 'go to work on the body' tactic. There are several fighters who have all reacted in the same way as Castillo last night. It's the delayed reaction that tells the truth in the knockout. That kind of '**** that hurt', then the realisation that you cant breathe, everything sapped out of you. I've seen it before, to me his well executed body KO's are a thing of beauty. An artist carrying out his craft. I've no doubt that over the next 3 years we will see another opponents face screw up in complete agony as Hatton lands to the body on them.

    Hatton is also known as the Bodysnatcher, it needs no further explanation.

    One thing I would say (slightly off the topic of this thread) was the hugging,clinching issue. Both fighters work inside, and that's exactly what they were doing WORKING. Both were throwing sweet hooks to the body and uppercuts which inevitably will lead to holding, excessive??? Definitely not. Like it or not Hatton's style will lead to holdng at some point, it's close quarters warfare in there. If you dont like the style .. dont watch it.

    For me I will continue to watch Hatton destroy previous champions by using great footwork (underrated - Hatton one dimensional - I hate that), unorthodox angles to fire off into the body, and great risk taking by having a **** poor defence. I'd rather watch this than some cumbersome chess match. The fight was won and lost in the trenches, both are brave, and courageous fighters.

    One last point. Hatton got jammed by a snarling body shot in round 5 by the Tyson-esque brute/plodder Juan Urango. Of course this was touted as Hatton's achilles heel in last nights fight. Castillo, touted as having one of the best left hooks to the body in the business, connecting on several occasions and not once did Hatton flinch. He answered another question right there. Not that he needed to.. what having only been down once in 43 fights (flash knockdown by Eammon Magee).

    Great win by Hatton, more impressive than the ugly fights v Collazo and Urango (last rounds). His last 5 fights, 4 have been against current champs and one against a two time ex-champ. His resume is getting better, he's a humble great promoter of boxing outside of the ring and still he gets the hate.

    Lets hope he keeps letting his fists do the talking.
     
  8. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Absolutely and well said. If he had gotten up the fight would have been stopped seconds later anyway. All this talk of a dive is utter nonsense.
     
  9. sandwichsurgeon

    sandwichsurgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Hatton KO'd him fair and square with a picture perfect body shot, man the **** up and stop making excuses.
     
  10. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    to say he even quit is rubbish, the guy couldn't breathe.

    Castillo said: "He got me very good with that punch," said Castillo afterwards. "I have never been caught that way. It was the perfect shot. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't get up."

    "I'm very sad. Hatton against Mayweather? It would be interesting - like cat and mouse."

    and bob arum said: Bob Arum, who said: "I've been in boxing 42 years and I've probably seen that shot hit perfectly five times.

    "Once you get hit that way the guy can't breathe for 30 seconds and there's nothing he can do no matter how much he wants to get up. It is more effective than a knockout punch on the chin."
     
  11. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He might have lacked the same motivation but there is no way he took a dive

    that was a perfect liver shot and Castillo was wincing constantly getting hit to the body prior to that
     
  12. SweetScienceFan

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    Of course, everyone who gets knocked out by a body shot is taking a dive these days. I would love for you guys to eat a body shot like that. It would change your prospective in a split second.
     
  13. tills9191

    tills9191 Member Full Member

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    why wasn't he going to get paid for the fight???whats the reason??
     
  14. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But that right there tells you what kind of a beast Hatton is if he makes warriors like Castillo think "better not continue or I will get a whooping of my life". It was a similar situation when Morales didnt continue against Pacquaio.
     
  15. RUSKULL

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    Exactly. ODLH wanted out of a fight he was losing so he put on an Oscar-worthy performance. Castillo however, took the shot, then the pain & loss of breath started to kick in and he turned away, and collapsed. The delayed reaction would be very hard to fake.

    No dive, not in my opinion anyway.