Catch weight fights. It DOES matter if you're forced to lose one or two pounds

de la hoya didnt just compromise hs weight though but his health, that wasnt just a coupe of pounds, he had to go from 160 to 145

and his body showed it terribly, he looked like a damn kid in their

 

catchweight fights are bull**** they should do away with them if u dont want a guy to fight his natural weight fight someone else anything from 140 to 147 is a welterweight fight nothin says you have to weigh 147 let the guys come in where they feel best within the limits of the division

 

First of all I have nothing against Pac and have already stated it is logical to assume the outcome of his and Cotto's fight would have been the same at the full 147lb limit.

Second considering Pac wasn't far removed from fighting at that weight and he seems to have no issues with fluxuating his weight (some fighters do some don't see Ricky Hatton for further explanations) I don't think it was a huge disadvantage for him, but I would say it had to be somwhat of a disadvantage for him to go back to cutting weight when he had just gotten use to being at the higher weight. I would have understood if at the time of their negotiations Pac said he felt comfortable at 147lbs and no longer wished to drain himself, so if they were to fight he would want Hatton to move up. you know like how he is now comfortable enough at 147lbs to take on Mayweather who is widely considered the best fighter in world at that weight.

 

naw the person losing is always at more of a disadvantage...especially due to the fact that most all fighters have to cut weight from their natural weight to make their fighting weight...

Going up in fight weight isn't a matter of gaining muscle its a matter of maintaing the natural muscle and size u already have and staying in shape....

losing weight from ur fight weight which is usually a plateaued weight requires unhealthy acts like extreme dehydration, or starvation to achieve...
So the fighter thats losing is almost always weaker..

anyone that works out knows this, this isn't fighter fitness science..

 

Ok I get what you're saying but if a JrWW and a WW want to fight each other, what weight should they fight at for there to be a level playing field? If they fight at 147 won't the WW have the advantage since he is a mature WW and the JrWW is not?

 

yeah but there is a difference mentally when u unintentionally come in below the normal 147 versus being forced to come in at 145 and knowing u have to come in under that....

Im sure cotto was never shooting to come into fights at 146....it just happened...

but he had to shoot to come in under 145

and it could be that because he usually came in at 146 that he thought the 1lb wasn't a big deal or unattainable

 

Cotto weighed in at 146 for Clottey. He weighed 145 for Manny. Anyone who thinks that a single stinking pound is anything to a welterweight is a ****ing spastic.

 

Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach = "****ing spastic"

 

It can matter yes. But I think in the case of Pac/Cotto, it was not a factor that influenced the fight. There were so many other reasons why Cotto the lesser man on the night, his weight was not one of them.

But yes it does matter when a guy has to cut below his normal weight, just like it matters when a guy has venture above his natural weight too. Ask Hatton how he felt competing at 147

 

i don't get you man one second you say you got nothing against Pac, the next you call him a ****ing spastic.

 

Miguel Cotto = "not a ****ing spastic" because he says he felt great at the weight after the fight :good

 

I personally think the fair answer would be for them to fight at WW because the difference in power isn't that big... and the JRWW and WW can make 147lbs healthy...

In the end the JRWW might not get the KO but if he is the better fighter he would win regardless of the weight...

Now if a JRMW fights a JRWW thats a different story.....but if it ever involves the JRMW cutting weight down to WW he is at a real bad disadvantage!!

Technically if u want to fight a bigger fighter u should fight him at his weight.....not in the middle...because skills wins fights not power

and it makes it hard to give a person credit for beating someone who is considered bigger but on fight night is the same size due to unhealthy weight loss..

thats not to say the outcome would not be the same but it just adds unnecessary speculation to ur win

 

I think you underestimate the influence weight can have. Listen to what Pernell Whitaker one of the most skilled fighters ever has to say about a JrWW moving up to fight a WW.

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yeah like dude said i think cotto lost that fight for other reasons besides the weight....

the same outcome could have most likely occurred at 147 but thats why i do condone catch weights cuz ur wins will always be questioned

 

Dude calm down and read the post in its context... I was responding to another post.