How far do catch weights go back? I seem to remember Senya posting an article about Packey McFarland and it mentioned about Battling Nelson demanding he made 130 if they were to fight. Is there any other stories/articles/well know fights where catch weights were involved? What are peoples thoughts on catch weights? It annoys me a bit how Pacquiao seems to want under catch weights nowadays.
As far as modern boxing goes, it strikes me that the reason for all the catchweights and weight-class jumping is a reaction to the fact that these days a "world title" is virtually meaningless anymore. Hell, who ISN'T a claimant to some stupid belt or other nowadays? There had to be another way to stake your claim as a great fighter..... The only way to glean a bit of attention and bigger paydays is to simply try to fight anyone remotely around the weight class you currently inhabit. That seems to be the currency of the day.
Joe Gans D20 Joe Walcott, 20/9/04 What was the catchweight and why was it used? Another meeting between the lightweight and welterweight champions, this fought at 138. Was a title at stake? No, neither man's title was at stake - this may be because Walcott did not make the weight - Boxrec lists him at 140. However, sources seem to indicate that this may be incorrect, as Walcott was not made to pay the forfiet he had agreed to. Did the catchtweight negatively affect either man? Probably it did. 138 was an ask for the Barbados demon and he seems to have struggled to keep the pressure upon Gans, though this may have more to do with Gans being a master boxer! Was the Catchweight a good thing or a bad thing? Overall, good getting the two into the ring together was the main thing, and it hurt neither's career with the draw a harmless (though unpopular) result.
Amrstrong-Jenkins was at fought at a catchweight of 139, Griffith-Charnley was fought at a catchweight of 145, Ross-Mclarnin I was fought at the same weight.
Good stuff, it goes back much further than I thought. I wouldn't mind reading into those fights a little more. I'm still not a fan of them though, especially when you have a smaller guy moving up and demanding the weight be a little lower.
We have around 8,755,006 divisions these days! It seems to me that there is absolutely no reason for a catchweight title fight. The fact that guys are allowed to invent their own divisions simply because they happen to be popular fighters is very irritating. Non-title fights contested over or under established weight classes don't bother me. Catchweight title fights are absurd. I know that doesn't address the original question. I'm just venting!
I totally agree, a title fight should never be fought at a catch weight. It takes the legitimacy away in my opinion.
I think catchweight fights have been around for years but catchweights in "world" title fights is pretty new. Leonard-Lalonde is the earliest I remember.
Well bit of an unusual one. Lalonde was WBC Lightheavy champ and the WBC Super middle title was vacant. Leonard managed to swing that if Lalonde got under 168 both titles would be on the line. So really you could say that Leonard much of a fan of his I am has a claim on the light heavy title when he never ever fought a light heavy.
Well yes but not quite the same as it is now. It is the first time I can think of though in title fight where one fighter has demanded the other came in under the weight, Light heavy in this case.