Catchweights- Do we need them?

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  1. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They are supposed to make a fight fair but are never used that way. The "a" side just uses it to get an advantage, and the "b" side agrees to get a large check. You cannot get a fair situation by making it unfair for one side. It is always unfair for one side because an all new weight limit is being created, and since it's all new, there is a limited time to prepare and whether you can actually handle it or not is not known until the fight. The fighter coming up should just get into the weight safely, not use it as an excuse to get a good fighter at a catch weight.
     
  2. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So all the people saying Floyd should fight GGG suddenly got a problem with Catchweights?
     
  3. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm assuming this forum supports catchweights especially since Manny Pac uses them all the time.
     
  4. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    That's how I see it. As long as both parties agree on a weight then have at it, just don't want to hear any crying afterwards. If you weren't good with the weight then don't sign the contract. If you knew it would affect your performance but wanted that payday, well ya got what you came for so too bad.
     
  5. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd already had a title at 154 BEFORE he fought Canelo so I don't know what you're getting at. Canelo wanted the titles on the line because he thought he was better than Floyd. DOH.
     
  6. bigbeatbaby

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    look at why same day weigh ins are no longer around and why they changed them and you will see.
     
  7. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Catchweight makes it possible for two fighters in different weight class to meet where not only one fighter needs to sacrifice moving up or down a whole division.
     
  8. woodzo

    woodzo Active Member Full Member

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    i think if theres two reigning champions in their weight class who have cleaned their division and meet in the middle is great & that causes a 'superfight' of sorts

    but when its fights for titles and its a catchweight with a challenger involved fighting for a belt 4lbs under the limit its a joke

    cotto vs martinez was a farce
    pac vs algeri also
    floyd vs canelo

    and i dont even know where to start with Garcia vs Peterson, a fight that could unify a division takes place 2lbs above the limit , what a joke
     
  9. VBOX

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    My first post was backing the idea of catch weights but that is only because titles and rankings mean next to nothing nowadays in boxing, it's mostly about matchups, so sometimes catch weights are necessary. Having said that, if boxing wants to ever be taken more seriously as a sport then they probably should outlaw cw title fights and respect the divisions they have created themselves. Two fighters competing at SMW can weigh in anywhere between 161 - 168, etc etc. Fighters shouldn't have to be dictated to weigh in at a set weight within the division. That just creates leverage in negotiations and keeps the silly shenanigans in boxing.
     
  10. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only for non-title bouts between champions between two different weight classes.

    Just IMO. Titles should never be on the line unless the full weight limit is allowed.
     
  11. p4pflab

    p4pflab Active Member Full Member

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    Only under very rare exceptional circumstances, most of the time they r unnecessary and harmful. Like Ward Dawson.
     
  12. East Side

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    Catch weights have been around forever, they serve a purpose.

    Now having catchweights for title fights is something new for the most part. I think that catchweights for titlebouts is some bosheit and should be against the rules. You want to defend your title than defend up to the prescribed weight in accordance to everything that is proper.

    Non Title fights, as long as they get them in the ring to throw I wouldn't care how they did it, catchweight or not. Just get the boys squared.
     
  13. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, we need 10 more weight divisions.