Cazaghe better than Floyd?

No he is afraid of the home cooking done in Europe! Anyone familiar with boxing is.

 

Well ya see, the thing is this, uh uh, well ya see, ya see Flyin don't pay the bills.....

 

Who exactly should he fly to fight? The best fights are here with the exception of Hatton and we know that would be a travesty. They'd probably let Hatton hit Floyd with a bat.

 

I was making light of the argument, there was nobody for Flloyd to fly to fight dumbass, all the money and competition for him was in the US. You name me the fighters in his weightclass he should have left the US to fight :deal

 

Calzaghe is indeed underrated, but Floyd's better. Good thread

 

Calzaghe isn't better than Floyd undefeated or not. Floyd can be KO'd by Shane and still have argument that he's better than Slappy.

 

you just naming who beat who, but not taking into account at what time these fights occured. by your logic, you must think that trevor berbick's win over an atg like muhammed ali is relevant, right? yeah its relevant until you realize that ali was 39 and completely washed up. trinidad WAS and atg and mayorga isnt, mayorga was out of boxing for 3 years and 170. circumstances matter. and you realize that trinidad fought mayorga in 2004 and fought jones in 2008 right?

ok but what did jones victory over trinidad proof. did it really prove that jones was a legitament threat to calzaghe, even though jones was already starched twice by tarver and johnson, neither of whom can be considerded an atg. while marquez was fighting in a diviosn he didnt belong as trinidad, he was p4p, no.2 in the world at the time mayweather signed to fight him. something you cant say about either trinidad or jones. you'd be better pressed to compare marquez and hopkins. but then you be put in a situation, once again, having to compare calzaghe's greatest victory, vs. hopkins against mayweather's win, a comeback fight off a almost 2 year layoff which many regarded as a tune-up fight for pacquiao.( or now you can say for mosley).

you can refer to the last post. calzaghe beating hopkins is better then mayweather beating marquez but take off marquez off his resume, and his place in history remains the same for now, you take off hopkins name off calzaghe's resume and it dosent look good at all for calzaghe. so again, this was calzaghe biggest win, while marquez wasnt even mayweather top 3 biggest win. as for dlh, he was far better then washed up jones. now as for hopkins, he was better then dlh but again, mayweather's win over dlh wasnt his best win. once you get past hopkins, calzaghe's line of opponets just aren't very good. the kessler win was very good but how good is kessler? he was suppose to be the heir apparent to calzaghe at 168, but he just lost andre ward. how good was the win in retorspect. then you have lacy. you can say just about the same thing about him, and even worse. you'd have to go back beating eubank for another top notch fight. but eubank was past his prime. when talking about mayweather , you dont need to mention dlh and marquez as his best wins. what about corrales? what about hatton? what about castillo? (well, the rematch, he lost the first fight). those three wins trump any three wins you can list for calzaghe.
both men have resumes that could have been better but even at this point, calzaghe's resume is weaker

 

calzaghe was 46-0 you twat

 

Insecure? First off he is based in Vegas where the best athletic commission in the WORLD is based. You are more likely to get a fair shake there than ANYWHERE on the planet. Home cooking is done in the US too. Second, do you know of anyone in his weight class that he would need to fly to fight? No. Hatton? :yep

Slappy Joe gets few props from me for staying over there beating up on fading elites and bums. Is he fresher than a battle worn B-hop or RJJ in their late 30s early 40s? Sure. The problem is that they BOTH put him on his as early. It shows a pattern. He would have been KTFO had he met them prime.

The fact is that if you take any of FMJ's opponents now and said, "What about FMJ in his prime?" You would say that FMJ would have DESTROYED them rather than out pointed them.

 

Does you really believe that the US is "friendly" to Mayweather? :huh

You do read these threads right?

 

Joe Calzaghe should be put in history with two names

"Slappy" because thats all he does with his "hooks".

and

"The Past Prime Punisher" because all his fights that were against Elite opponents were against fighters past their prime.(Hopkins, Jones, Eubank)