Cecil Peoples believes 'Lyoto won the fight clearly'

achillesthegreat · Oct 27, 2009

http://middleeasy.com/index.php?opt...s-lyoto-won-the-fight-clearly&catid=35:events

For those of you who aren't familiar with Cecil Peoples, he was one of the three judges that scored UFC 104. He was also the same guy who judged the Bisping vs. Hamil match in favor of Bisping. Dude's actually a well-respected martial-artist who received his black-belt in Karate under Master Ryusaki in North Hollywood. In fact, no one has really questioned Cecil People's 'martial-arts cred' but it seems that everyone has something to say about the dude's judging. The MMA world has said Cecil Peoples is running the sport, he's a terrible judge and even so far to call Cecil the worst judge ever. CageReport.net dodged all the flying tomatoes and spoke with Cecil Peoples about his decision to score the fight in Machida's favor and this is what he had to say:

"First of all what you need to understand is that from where the judges are sitting, we get to see things that the fans at home may miss. Mauricio Rua was being aggressive but it wasn't effective aggressiveness which is what we as the judges look for when scoring a fight. The way I saw it, Lyoto was landing the more cleaner and damaging strikes throughout the fight - if you take a look at the judging criteria clean strikes are valued more-so than the quantity of strikes landed. Although Rua threw a lot of low kicks they were not as damaging as Lyotos diverse attack in the earlier rounds which is why I scored the first three rounds for Machida. You have to keep in mind we always the favour the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

"When both fighters are engaged in a striking match what I always look for is the fighter who is being judicious, picking his spots, being accurate and landing the cleaner strikes which ultimately is what Lyoto did more effectively than Rua. Lyoto made Shogun come after him, he determined where the fight took place which in my opinion constitutes as effective Octagon control. I recognize the fact that Rua did have a few takedown attempts during the course of the fight however Lyoto defended them all successfully which counts as effective grappling in his favour, where as ununsuccessful takedown attempts are not scored at all. Therefore going by that criteria, I believe Lyoto won the fight clearly. I'm just glad the other judges on the panel saw it the same way and I'm sure the fans who understand the technicalities of the sport agree with the decision too."

achillesthegreat · Oct 27, 2009

leg kicks don't finish a fight.
rua in effective aggression.
maybe cost he is a karate guy he favoured machida.

what is this guy smoking.

Bill Butcher · Oct 27, 2009

achillesthegreat said: ↑

http://middleeasy.com/index.php?opt...s-lyoto-won-the-fight-clearly&catid=35:events

For those of you who aren't familiar with Cecil Peoples, he was one of the three judges that scored UFC 104. He was also the same guy who judged the Bisping vs. Hamil match in favor of Bisping. Dude's actually a well-respected martial-artist who received his black-belt in Karate under Master Ryusaki in North Hollywood. In fact, no one has really questioned Cecil People's 'martial-arts cred' but it seems that everyone has something to say about the dude's judging. The MMA world has said Cecil Peoples is running the sport, he's a terrible judge and even so far to call Cecil the worst judge ever. CageReport.net dodged all the flying tomatoes and spoke with Cecil Peoples about his decision to score the fight in Machida's favor and this is what he had to say:

"First of all what you need to understand is that from where the judges are sitting, we get to see things that the fans at home may miss. Mauricio Rua was being aggressive but it wasn't effective aggressiveness which is what we as the judges look for when scoring a fight. The way I saw it, Lyoto was landing the more cleaner and damaging strikes throughout the fight - if you take a look at the judging criteria clean strikes are valued more-so than the quantity of strikes landed. Although Rua threw a lot of low kicks they were not as damaging as Lyotos diverse attack in the earlier rounds which is why I scored the first three rounds for Machida. You have to keep in mind we always the favour the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

"When both fighters are engaged in a striking match what I always look for is the fighter who is being judicious, picking his spots, being accurate and landing the cleaner strikes which ultimately is what Lyoto did more effectively than Rua. Lyoto made Shogun come after him, he determined where the fight took place which in my opinion constitutes as effective Octagon control. I recognize the fact that Rua did have a few takedown attempts during the course of the fight however Lyoto defended them all successfully which counts as effective grappling in his favour, where as ununsuccessful takedown attempts are not scored at all. Therefore going by that criteria, I believe Lyoto won the fight clearly. I'm just glad the other judges on the panel saw it the same way and I'm sure the fans who understand the technicalities of the sport agree with the decision too."
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Those leg kicks were the most damaging blows landed by either man all night & they landed repeatedly by Rua... add to the fact that it was Rua who was constantly attacking & the majority of the time Machida was so defensive that it could be classed as outright survival mode = Cecil Peoples knows **** all about MMA.

He doesnt count leg kicks

He doesnt think leg kicks can KO a fighter :-(

Remove this idiots license ASAP !

Bill Butcher · Oct 27, 2009

Looks like karate guys sticking together because its their 1st taste of real success in MMA since the **** began in 93.

Wont be for long, Shogun will leave no doubt in the rematch - as there shouldnt have been here.

ufoalf · Oct 27, 2009

"When both fighters are engaged in a striking match what I always look for is the fighter who is being judicious, picking his spots, being accurate and landing the cleaner strikes which ultimately is what Lyoto did more effectively than Rua."
Riight, so you can get your ass beat but as long as you make one flurry a round "attempting to finish" and land HIGH precentage strikes even if it's 2 for 2 you win the fight. Nice.
And as Butcher said, he discounted leg kicks? Oh and landing on gloves isn't cleaner strikes douche.
Oh and for Rua not being effective, did the mother****er at least see Machidas, face, ribs and legs??? Talk about diversity of strikes. They literary had to score this fight purely based on takedown defense, which again a terrible scoring criteria because in no grappling sport takedown defense scores you ****, why should it in MMA?

BewareofDawg · Oct 27, 2009

achillesthegreat said: ↑

http://middleeasy.com/index.php?opt...s-lyoto-won-the-fight-clearly&catid=35:events

For those of you who aren't familiar with Cecil Peoples, he was one of the three judges that scored UFC 104. He was also the same guy who judged the Bisping vs. Hamil match in favor of Bisping. Dude's actually a well-respected martial-artist who received his black-belt in Karate under Master Ryusaki in North Hollywood. In fact, no one has really questioned Cecil People's 'martial-arts cred' but it seems that everyone has something to say about the dude's judging. The MMA world has said Cecil Peoples is running the sport, he's a terrible judge and even so far to call Cecil the worst judge ever. CageReport.net dodged all the flying tomatoes and spoke with Cecil Peoples about his decision to score the fight in Machida's favor and this is what he had to say:

"First of all what you need to understand is that from where the judges are sitting, we get to see things that the fans at home may miss. Mauricio Rua was being aggressive but it wasn't effective aggressiveness which is what we as the judges look for when scoring a fight. The way I saw it, Lyoto was landing the more cleaner and damaging strikes throughout the fight - if you take a look at the judging criteria clean strikes are valued more-so than the quantity of strikes landed. Although Rua threw a lot of low kicks they were not as damaging as Lyotos diverse attack in the earlier rounds which is why I scored the first three rounds for Machida. You have to keep in mind we always the favour the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

"When both fighters are engaged in a striking match what I always look for is the fighter who is being judicious, picking his spots, being accurate and landing the cleaner strikes which ultimately is what Lyoto did more effectively than Rua. Lyoto made Shogun come after him, he determined where the fight took place which in my opinion constitutes as effective Octagon control. I recognize the fact that Rua did have a few takedown attempts during the course of the fight however Lyoto defended them all successfully which counts as effective grappling in his favour, where as ununsuccessful takedown attempts are not scored at all. Therefore going by that criteria, I believe Lyoto won the fight clearly. I'm just glad the other judges on the panel saw it the same way and I'm sure the fans who understand the technicalities of the sport agree with the decision too."
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Jabs dont do that either! But jabs, like leg kicks are a very good way to prepare and set up for the finish you friggin idiot!!! atsch

Why the hell is takedown defense favored more highly then takedown attempts? Thats like saying a blocking a kick is more effective then throwing a kick and having it blocked. Just not right. People who have fought know this. Have to constantly block shots and fight off takedowns is taxing and it keeps you from mounting an attack. So according to this nimwot, BJ Penn should have won the first round of his rematch with GSP because he defended GSP's relentless takedown attempts, yet all GSP did was come up short in his attempts. NO. Wrong.

MaliSlamusrex · Oct 27, 2009

me too 4-1 Machida, Shogun won the 5th, its going to be a good rematch, but Shogun needs a better strategy to beat Machida, a counter kick is not going to do it.

québecwarrior · Oct 27, 2009

MaliSlamusrex said: ↑

me too 4-1 Machida, Shogun won the 5th, its going to be a good rematch, but Shogun needs a better strategy to beat Machida, a counter kick is not going to do it.
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4 to 1 to MACHIDA????:dead:dead:dead

AJAX · Oct 27, 2009

He considers running Octagn control because he made Rua chase him? Leg kicks don't really count and takedown defense gave Machida the grappling points? this guy is clueless.

Monoxide · Oct 27, 2009

Machida looked like Floyd Mayweather Jr running all around the Octagon. Really don't see how he even won a round

ufoalf · Oct 27, 2009

AJAX said: ↑

He considers running Octagn control because he made Rua chase him? Leg kicks don't really count and takedown defense gave Machida the grappling points? this guy is clueless.
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He totally thought Henderson was helpless vs Bisping until that lucky KO.

LB3000 · Oct 29, 2009

Here is more stuff from Cecil. He would be better off just keeping his mouth shut.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9881&zoneid=13

smbsmd · Oct 29, 2009

this guy should watch CroCop vs Hong Man Choi and let him try to repeat: "leg kicks dont finish the fight" afterwards.

gigogreco · Oct 29, 2009

ufoalf said: ↑

He totally thought Henderson was helpless vs Bisping until that lucky KO.
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to me, this statement shows, that there is to much room for interpretation in the ufc. Way to much.

Totomabs · Oct 29, 2009

smbsmd said: ↑

this guy should watch CroCop vs Hong Man Choi and let him try to repeat: "leg kicks dont finish the fight" afterwards.
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or watch marco ruas vs paul varelans too...

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