Cesar Chaves Jr vs Martinez...

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  1. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    who wins and why?
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Martinez.

    More speed, better reactions, more accurate. Just better.

    That said, Chavez has improved quite a bit over the past three years.

    But don't forget that Manfredo is a far cry from Martinez in terms of ability or athleticism.
     
  3. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    Someone just told me Roger Mayweather said Julio Jr. would be Martinez in 9 rounds...
     
  4. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manfredo is a D fighter and JCC Jr looked average against him...Martinez KO in 5
     
  5. smallpith

    smallpith Active Member Full Member

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    Martinez looked average against Barker who isn't much more proven than Manfredo.

    Personally I think Chavez is still growing into his potential, Martinez looks like he's on the downslide, expect this fight to take place in 18-24 months.
     
  6. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With Chavez Jr no fighting Whitaker like, I'd be surprised if Martinez lasts longer than 5 rounds.
     
  7. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    A: Martinez
    B-: Chavez Junior
    C+: Prime Manfredo
    C/C-: Manfredo now
     
  8. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    :patsch Manfredo is the same fighter that lost to a shot decline Lacy. Barker proved in the Martinez fight that he's a real good fighter that would easily beat Manfredo.
     
  9. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. smallpith

    smallpith Active Member Full Member

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    Lost to Lacy?...yeah...in the eyes of the guys at ringside and nobody else. Barker proved in the Belghacham fight that he faded late and was lucky that night to get the decision against a decent European level fighter...
     
  11. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    If you think manfredo is better then barker then im done arguring with you since you proved you're an idiot.
     
  12. smallpith

    smallpith Active Member Full Member

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    I said more proven, a guy that struggles with Belghacham and gets dropped by Paul Samuels is less proven than a guy who has taken Mora to 2 close decisions and was stopped in a joke like manner against Calzaghe.
     
  13. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    You do realize Manfredo is not the same fighter that fought Mora right? :lol: Want to talk about proven? Barker is a proven middleweight while Manfredo isnt.
     
  14. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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  15. Goro

    Goro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chavez Jr, big powerful and strong.