Chad Dawson: Hopkins has no game plan.

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  1. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hopkins is one of those rare boxers who has so much experience that he dont really need a game plan.
     
  2. The_President

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    I see Dawson as an easy win for BHOP.
     
  3. oli

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    Oh dear. Chads getting schooled
     
  4. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did he just say he fought Calzaghe lol?

    Dawson is a great fighter but I got Hopkins in this one
     
  5. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Slightly? Lol his legs were immediately stiff and he was discombobulated. That's why he just went backward because that was on instinct, his brain didn't know what to do.
     
  6. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins is just in another league. an ATG and even at this age he will beat Dawson. Dawson wont be able to touch him cleanly.
     
  7. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree to be honest. I think they were less active because they weren't really much of high volume fighters to begin with. Pascal only fought in spurts even when he fought Dawson and Pavlik only really opens up when he has a target. Did you see Dawson against Tarver? That is what you call fighting young. He threw blissful combo's, use a lot of movement and was very active. That is the style to beat Hopkins, it was similar to what Jermaine did against Hopkins. He threw lots of flurries and his jab was also pretty good as well. I just think that Dawson is better than Jermaine in every aspect. I'll just leave it at that. I do think that he'll have a lot of issues if he only fights in spurts, that's my only question. He really needs to be more consistent, and that's something that an experience fighter like Hopkins can and will take advantage of especially down the stretch.
     
  8. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And for the person who said that Hopkins is stronger than Dawson, you have got to kidding me. I can't remember who said it, and i don't feel like going back to find it. More physical as far as being rough? Yes, stronger? Not at all. Dawson is big at 6'3 (regardless what of he's listed at, he looked 2 inches taller than Hopkins face to face) and is more natural at light heavyweight. When Hopkins gets rough, Dawson will be able to handle himself.
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    youre the biggest hater of anyone from the u.s.
    how about **** off and bring something to the thread **** stick
    :hi:
     
  10. The_President

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    Oh, you must mean slick boxers like Tarver, or boxer/punchers like Trinidad and ODLH. I see what you mean. :lol:
     
  11. gooners!!

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    Dawson can beat Hopkins, provided he keeps it together mentally. If Dawson allows Hopkins to take him out of his comfort zone, and disrupt his rhythm, he will most probably lose. Hopkins is a rhythm breaker, and he will do what he has to, to break up your rhythm, to make you lose your composure, and get away from what you're good at it.

    This is Dawson's fight to win, it just comes down his mental approach, whether he can stay within his envelope, and not get drawn into the kind of fight Hopkins will try and drag him into, the kind of fight which will see him getting away from his advantages, which is possible, cause one of my biggest criticisms of Dawson, ironically, is his lack of mental focus.

    I've seen Dawson switch off in fights, he has a tendency to drift at times imo. Look at how easily Dawson allowed Pascal to take his title, Pascal didn't have to rip it away from him, as Dawson didn't fight hard enough to defend it, he almost gave it up without a fight.

    Given that Dawson holds advantages in speed, youth, and is a southpaw, I can see Hopkins being dirty with Dawson on the inside, roughing him up, headbutting him, or hitting him in the balls, and Dawson potentially reacting to it, only the empahsis is on Dawson not to allow Hopkins to drag him into that kind of fight, as that seems like it might be the best way for Hopkins to negate Dawson's physical advantages.
     
  12. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously work-rate alone won't beat Hopkins, and Pavlik is a limited boxer who loves to use his right right hand, but no way I was interrupting the only reason Pavlik loss is because of work-rate. But Pavlik complained he couldn't get off (meaning he wasn't throwing enough), and that he was sick, that's what I meant.

    Pascal is a fighter who likes to pick his spots, he should have been more aggresive against Hopkins, he probably would have won the first fight. Even Dawson says Pascal should been more aggressive, I don't care if wasn't his style. But Pascal did fight like amateur, he isn't a very good counter-puncher, and Hopkins constantly put the pressure on Pascal. Hopkins obviously watched Dawson vs Pascal, and saw a weakness in Pascal that he exploited.
     
  13. gooners!!

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    Just to add, this actually could be the fight where we see the best of Dawson though, as some fighters fight to the level of their position, get inspired by certain challenges, so we could see a stronger mental approach, more professionalism from Dawson.
     
  14. Joan_Guzman

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    Chad gonna make Hopkins retire on his stool end of the 5th his face a bloody mess and out on his feet.
     
  15. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not only they assume that the fight is not gonna be competitive which means that either Jean Pascal who beat him is a complete failure or that Hopkins is a highly and preciously abnormality protected by the Gods of Boxing by reasons unknown, now they got inside his mind and got to the brilliant line that a man who is one of the smartest and most disciplined boxers to have ever stepped in a professional ring has no game plan but to be beaten to submission, Dawson's side is at least laughable. I want all you mothas here on April 29th no matter what. And if I have to dig and drag you to be exposed in nudity here on the board, I will do it so The Merciliful Lord help me.