Chad Dawson is very good but not great.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by liljp361, Nov 10, 2008.


  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely NOT! CHad isn't great yet...he just has the potential to be great. At this point Dawson is up there with guys like Kessler....a young promising champion who is looking for challenges agianst the preieme names in the sport.
     
  2. TheChamp1000

    TheChamp1000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Okay the Johnson fight may be good experience for him but didnt you say he was adaptable and a smart fighter?
    Early on in the fight he was finding Johnson no problem when he was moving about in and out not giving Johnson any chance to pressure.
    The fight ended up with Johnson all over him and nearly beating him.
    I dont understand how thats smart and adaptable? It would seem the opposite.

    Everyone will tell you that in his fights with Hopkins (3-4th round onwards) and Kessler (4th round onwards) Joe had a look at them and adjusted many times during the fights to win.
    Thats what I would call smart and adjustable.
     
  3. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    Say what you want to say about Dawson, but he is clearly the top guy in the light heavyweight division, imo. He will beat Calzaghe if they fight. In a way, he should be expected to, since that is his natural weight. He's tall, has good fundamentals, uses a jab, goes to the body and head, doesn't just head hunt, and has power in both hands. I think people are still waiting for a Roy Jones to come out of Dawson, but he is a different fighter all together. Say what you want about his chin, he has not been stopped yet, and he has shown to come through when having some adversity (Johnson fight). Although the fight was close with Johnson, Dawson did enough to win as he landed the cleaner harder shots, it just that Johnson has a very good chin and came to win that night. Lets not get all hyped up on the Calzaghe hype train yet; I don't think Calzaghe has fought anyone with that big of a reach, and not only that, but carrying that type of speed/power while still in their prime. Remember, Dawson hasn't lost yet, and doesn't plan on it, he isn't gun shy and doesn't lack confidence. He knows he still has all his reflexes, so you know he wouldn't be shy on touching Calzaghe up.
     
  4. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    :admin:yikes:admin

    You have got to be kidding me. :lol:
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    No
     
  6. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No man that goes life and death with a 39 year old Glen johnson is beating Calzaghe, Johnson is not hopkins.
     
  7. bachatu

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    Fighters match up differently against each other. Hopkins had a hard time on two occasions with Taylor, yet Pavlik beat Taylor twice convincingly. Hopkins has a hard time with Calzaghe yet whoops Pavlik as if he was the young guy in the fight. It doesn't make any of them bad fighters, they just match up differently.
     
  8. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When are people going to learn that Calzaghe doesn't knock people out? Dawson's chin wouldn't be a factor. His main limitation would be how often he would go back onto the ropes and also his inability to stick to a gameplan and avoid taking rounds off.
     
  9. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Youre right. Johnson at the moment is much better than Hopkins..
     
  10. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Dude, look at what you wrote ... you want to know why there's so many European posters giving Americans **** about Calzaghe at the moment?

    Because refusing to give fighters any credit regardless of how talented they are, is EXACTLY what Americans do and have always done with European fighters. This is the inevitable backlash against it.

    Exhibit A: Mikkel Kessler

    He's apparently an over-protected Eurobum, however Kelly Pavlik & Chad Dawson are/were elite fighters ... as was Jeff Lacy before he got torn apart by Joe Calzaghe.

    What the hell has Chad Dawson achieved in beating Tarver or Johnson?
    But this is who Calzaghe needs to fight to "prove himself to the Americans"

    I was at the fight on Saturday and the reaction of the majority of the American fans was disgraceful, many of them storming out of the building in the 11th round. :rofl

    Gathering in a little crowd to chant "You Suck!" before slinking off in disgrace before the fight was even over. Remember the Hatton Vs FMJ fight, even in defeat the fans chanted Hattons name.
     
  11. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes a long time after he fought hopkins for all we know taylor has gone way downhill since the hopkins fights ? hopkins himself said everyone he has fought has never looked good since and he is right apart from calzaghe
     
  12. bachatu

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    No, I don't think so. I think Pavlik would be a difficult match up for Taylor at any point of his career. As so would Hopkins against Pavlik.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Because they have an inferiority complex. No amount of praise and/or respect will be enough for them


    Mikkel Kessler was panned by many Brits before the Calzaghe fight. It was only afterwards that he became the greatest fighter from 175 on down

    Kessler gets more hype than he does grief.

    No one is saying this. This is another fabricated complaint. For the most part, no one is saying he needs to prove himself. However, if he wants to continue fighting, Dawson is probably the best opponent out there for him.

    What's your point? They're big Roy supporters. Clearly they're going to be pissed by what they saw. Eagles fans' were storming out in the 4th quarter yesterday against the Giants. Fans do this all the time.

    Hatton fans were chanting his name. If Calzaghe had some fans at the fight, they would be chanting his name. I also remember Hatton fans booing the National Anthem as well as yelling racial slurs and throwing things at Mayweather when he went to the U.K to promote that fight.
     
  14. Broxi

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    They never get any respect, that's the point .. as soon as he beats someone, it's "oh but you need to fight this guy", if anyone has an inferiority complex it's the American fight fans.

    That's not how I remember it, I remember people respecting the fact that this guy was a 2 belt champ and the one real danger in the SMW division, the fight itself only gained Kessler more fans.

    Doubt it.

    Dawson would be the next logical fight for him at LHW but the guy's 36 y/o and wants to retire, so why bring it up?
    Of course someone will eventually beat him if he keeps fighting.

    They're not Roy supporters, they're not even boxing fans. **** them and the Eagles fans too. I've been a fan of RJJ for years, I admit that I was a little saddened to see what was happening by the 8-9th round but calling an ATG a bum and giving all the theatrics beforing storming off tells me that those guys are more Calzaghe Haters than Roy Fans. **** 'em.


    :huh

    Uh? the dumb ass chants of U-S-A, U-S-A were drowned out by the chants of the Calzaghe fans in attendance.

    What racial slurs were yelled at Mayweather, I don't remember that. I do remember at the Calzaghe fight some tit behind me shouting "Yeah, get that white boy, get that white boy", you don't bring race into boxing if you're a real fan of the sport.
    The booing of the anthem was unacceptable to me, it didn't happen on Saturday and many Brit fans including myself applauded after the anthems.

    Now, that I mention it, I don't remember them throwing stuff at Floyd either, maybe I'm wrong but if you want to provide a link or something I'll gladly take that back.