Chad DAWSON publicly CALLS out Joe CALZaghe

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  1. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dawson is heavier than any of those names and he is taller than Herbie Hide. In fact Dawson is as tall as Razor Ruddock and David Haye.

    Dawson needs to stop being a ***** and call out fighters from lower weight classes. We all know he looked like crap against someone of his own size last (and perhaps he just wants to cash in before he is exposed?) but he really should find some gonads and callout people at 175 or higher. Calzaghe - of ofcurse - is valid hunt now that he moved to 175.
     
  2. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So the fact that Calzaghe holds the Ring title at 175 isn't worth Dawson calling out for a fight?
     
  3. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dawson is not in a financial league (yet at least) of Kessler and Calzaghe and therefore I doubt he can make a reasonable offer. He will just have to look pretty and hope that Calzaghe can make the financial side of things work out attractively.
     
  4. 41fever

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    If Joe takes it we gotta give him RESPECT.
     
  5. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I strongly doubt JOE C. accepts to fights Dawson. Chad is young and hungry and full of fire. He's fresh off beating Tarver and Glen Johnson. The Glen fight was very very close. Calzaggy knows BAD CHAD will be more dangerous than his "just for money fight" with Roy Jones Jr. and the aged but very crafty BHOP. The Wales native doesn't need anyone anymore. He's undefeated (I thought Joe lost to Reid narrowly) and has a descent resume. He cleaned out Super Middle and moved up to tango with the aged great, Hopkins. The RJJ fight was good for his pockets and retirement. If chooses to fight Dawson and Johnson AND wins...WOW! ATG status 4 sure! If he fights Dawson win or lose he should still get much respect 4 courage. Anyway, he had a great and illustrous career. He just lacks fighting greats in there primes.
     
  6. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    can you give me a link to calzaghe backing out of a fight with dawson and when the offer was made?

    timeline for calzaghe and dawson in the time period.

    jan to feb 2007 steiglitz, calzaghe mandatory turned down by HBO as an opponent , manfredo chosen by HBO themselves as the opponent for calzaghe march/april fight at 168
    fight with manfredo takes place

    dawson timeline a fight with adamek for light heavy title goes ahead in feb 2007 dawson wins.

    after the calzaghe manfredo fight talks get under way for biggest 168 fight in history and in europe with mikkel kessler , HBO not in the loop in this fight and do not have a part to play until after the fight is signed.

    dawson has low key defense on showtime v ruiz in about june /july 2007

    then has another fight v mendoza, i would have to look up but i would guess around sept /oct again on showtime

    both win there respective fights.
    1 week after the kessler fight the verbal diariah is on with calzaghe and hopkins fight arranged for early 2008 at 175 on HBO

    dawson arranges fight with glen johnson at 175 in early 2008 at 175

    both win, calzaghe and jones text ewach other by phone and agree a 50/50 split in america for a fight on hbo in sept later gets put back due to calzaghe injury to november on HBO

    dawson in negotiaons and purse bids with diaconu during spring and early summer 2008 decides to vacate the belt and fight tarver instead on showtime at the end of 2008.

    where in the timeline laid out was this offer ?

    where in the timline did calzaghe pull out ?
     
  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No way in hell Calzaghe wants ANYTHING to do with this young lion. If he fights Dawson, i will give him all the respect in the world. Heck, i don't think Hopkins wants a piece of Dawson either. But Hopkins has never ducked anyone but i think it would be smart for him to not fight him.
     
  8. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i agree calzaghe will not fight dawson

    to high risk to reward ratio.

    just as dawson will do later in his career when he becomes a big earner , he will not face certain young up and comming fighters in favour of an easier payday for less risk of a loss.

    sadly its the way of boxing.
     
  9. BigReg

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    Showtime put together a two fight deal for Calzaghe to fight Dawson in Nov. of 2007 at 168 and then Kessler in early 2008. If you remember, there was a time period when HBO wasn't offering much for a Calagh/Kessler fight and the bout was in trouble. That's when Showtime stepped in with the 2 fight deal.

    Here's a quote from Dawson's manager regarding this issue;

    "I think they're both afraid of Chad Dawson,...We had a contract to fight Calzaghe in November, a year ago and it was all said and done and good to go and a week later, oh, he doesn't want to fight him. Hopkins, you mention Chad's name and he's got amnesia. He says, 'Well, I want to fight everybody in the division, I'm the best in the division. I want to unify this and that.' Well, I said, 'That's all fine and good but you gotta go through Chad Dawson to get there.' So now what he's doing is instead of fighting at 175-pounds, he's fighting at all these other weights that don't make a damn difference for anything."
     
  10. pugilist64

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    Another fighter for the American fans to desperately pins their hopes to. It`s getting quite sad really. :|
     
  11. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    thank you for the quote bigreg.

    dawsons manager is obvioulsy a bit wrong about the facts.

    warren jumped ship from showtime and went with HBO the same time as dawson won the 175 title.
    so it could not have been a year as team dawson claim as they would not have been in a position as a challenger for the 175 crown to offer calzaghe a fight before he became champ.

    it makes no sense on there part.



    then warren and palle had protratced offers that went on for months as we all debated for months about it on esb for the 168 unification clash this lasted from beggining of may until the end of june/july from memory 2007

    HBO /SHOWTIME never offered anything for this fight at first , simply because they were not involved at all with the makings of the fight .
    it was a european fight.
    approx $10 million was the total pot.

    when the fight was signed/purses in place /venue and fight agreed , then HBO came in with a bid $1.5 million when the foreign tv rights were sold.

    not sure how calzaghe could have been offered a 2 fight deal by showtime as team dawson claim.

    but its boxing politics,managers and promoters are like politicans.
    95% of what they say is half truths and lies, no matter what country they are from.
     
  12. jim22uk

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    calzaghe would destroy dawson calzaghe should fight hopkins or kessler again or froch if not retire dawson is way over rated americans are only shouting his name because they have not much else to shout about
     
  13. Stezzie

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    They dont want to hear stuff like that...:-(

    Great try but it's only going to fall on deaf ears...:good
     
  14. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    or perhaps glasses
    i have already answered above.
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Sean, the offer was for Nov. of 2007 at 168. Dawson had been a champ since Feb. of 2007.


    I'll try to explain this again. There were money issues with the fight originally and both sides were looking for a big Network to offer them big money for the fight. At first, HBO was not willing to poney up the neccessary funds. The fight was in trouble and then Showtime offered Calzaghe a two fight deal. The first fight would've been against Dawson at 168 in Nov. of 2007. The second fight would've been against Kessler for early 2008. Calzaghe didn't have any multi fight deals with HBO or Showtime, so he would've been free to fight on either network. I can only assume HBO upped the offer and Calzaghe decided to fight Kessler on HBO, instead of having to face Dawson before fighting Kessler.