Chad Dawson v. Adrian Diaconu - 10th November, Montreal, according to Boxrec

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Precisely my point!:good
     
  2. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    JETSKI, shortly after the Diaconu-Hoye fight, you agreed that you would take an avatar bet with me on this (one month I think?). Are you still up for it?

    I don't think the fight will happen in November because nobody knows Diaconu right now and a win over him won't be a huge reward for Dawson, but if Dawson can't get a meaningful fight, then hopefully it will happen.

    Dawson would easily win this fight by very wide UD and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he stopped him. Diaconu is extremely overrated on here after his win over Hoye and the hype he is getting from some people on here is unbelievable. The guy's "rip your head off" power is WAY WAY WAY overrated. Just because his style makes him look like a Tyson-like monster doesn't mean he is. Do the guys in here hyping him up like crazy even know about his other matches where he couldn't knock out D level fighters over 10+ rounds? The reality is that Diaconu has a very aggressive style, but just "good" power and Dawson is on a whole different level than him.
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Let's go through some facts and see where they lead us...

    Dawson has to fight Diaconu at some stage, because Diaconu is the mandatory and he badly wants a shot at Dawson. Money will NOT buy him off. Diaconu's shareprice is at its highest NOW, after Hoye. Dawson has bigger fish to fry than Diaconu. If he fries one now, then what's the point of a Diaconu fight later, when Diaconu might not be looked upon as being as impressive as he was against Hoye and his share price decreases. In conclusion, IT MAKES SENSE for Dawson to get the Diaconu fight out of the way NOW and concentrate on the bigger fights later, with his reputation sky-high, having clubbered the Diaconu monster. Then, if Diaconu disapoints in his future fights, hey, nobody cares, because Dawson will have damaged him for ever, right?

    The only reason why Dawson would not fight Diaconu next is because he is afraid that Diaconu's sky-high confidence after Hoye might lead him to KTFO him.

    So...what do you think, is Bad Chad afraid of a confident but inferior opponent? Is he *****? Let's hear it! Because nobody can convince me that it's good for Chad's career NOT to beat Diaconu NOW....unless you think that Diaconu would KTFO him, of course...:yep
     
  4. huki

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    You can spin it anyway you want. I'm praying this fight happens so his hype ends faster. Why don't you even answer my question? Do you know that Diaconu couldn't knock out D level fighters over 10+ rounds? Have you watched any of his fights except the one against Hoye? Would you like to take a one-month avatar bet with me?

    Insulting the young, extremely talented, potential future pound for pounder Chad Dawson and speaking so highly about the guy who hasn't proven almost anything in his 6+ year career yet is ridiculous. The hype that many unproven fighters get on here is a joke. Especially some of the white ones. Take the one month avatar bet with me if you're so confident, make it two months if you want.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    And another thing...Diaconu is HUNGRY! He knows he will never win on points against Dawson. The judges wouldn't give Diaconu a decision even if it were close, which it's unlikely to be anyway! Diaconu will go for it. He has nothing to lose. The only way this will go to cards is if he keeps being turned by Dawson and he repeatedly slips and falls all night. Not going to happen. Diaconu will either KTFO Dawson or he will get TKO'ed by Dawson. I am inclined to go with the latter option, though I would not be surprised at all if Diaconu would yes, rip his head off.
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Sorry, what bet do you want me to take? I never said that Dawson wouldn't win, did I? I just said that Diaconu has a good chance of KTFO Dawson out and BECAUSE he will go for it, it is unlikely that this fight will go to decision. It will be an EXCITING fight. I want to see it. I want to see Dawson shine and outwit the bull Diaconu. And if the bull gets to score...the crowds will love it too, won't they? I don't understand what you are on about...

    My argument is this:

    Given that Dawson has to fight Diaconu at some stage, he should do it now when the Diaconu hype is at its highest, especially if Diaconu ain't that good really. He should not fight Diaconu later, when Diaconu might not look so hot. The only reason why Dawson would not want to fight this uber-hyped opponent NOW is because he thinks he might indeed get KTFO and to avoid that, is waiting for Diaconu to stop riding the confidence wave thus becoming less dangerous and more easily beaten.

    What is wrong with this argument?
     
  7. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    I don't want to sit and argue about this and I looked back and saw that you did say that Dawson would probably beat him, so all I'll say is, go look at Diaconu's other fights. Look at how his power is good at best. If you think Diaconu has a very good chance at knocking out Dawson you have to be on drugs. I think he has a tiny chance at KO'ing Dawson and that's being nice. Oh well.

    "Uber-hyped" Diaconu? That's where you miss the point. On here, he is uber hyped by a few people, but that's it. Most boxing fans have no idea who he is, so there is no "uber-hype" for him at all. He knocked out Hoye on ESPN and got some people on the internet talking about him. If Dawson faces him tomorrow, the average showtime boxing viewer will not be very excited about the fight and will not be very impressed with Dawson after he outboxes Diaconu easily. BUT, if Diaconu goes on HBO or Showtime and wins 1 or 2 fights impressively against pretty good competition, people will get excited about him and Dawson vs Diaconu would be a much bigger event. That means more excitement for average fans and bigger paydays for both guys.
     
  8. BobbyFalk

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    What happened to Dawson vs. Tarver?
    this is the fight the division needs- SHOWTIME was trying to build that up , with the double-header last month- so what the F#%*??

    Seems that DIACONU is a good fighter, but come on'- Dawson needs TARVER, and Tarver needs DAWSON- make that fight first!
    Tarver is 38 years old
     
  9. huki

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    Tarver is currently ducking Dawson and really wants to make a fight with Jeff Lacy.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well, of course Dawson would "probably beat him"...but it's going to have to be a KO/TKO...he won't win by decision...bulls don't die because you keep on stabbing them with the banderillas...they die because you've stabbed them in the heart with your sword after dodging them all night...because, trust me, this bull will keep on charging!:yep

    What an exciting fight! What an opportunity to shine for Dawson!
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    any other views?:think
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Absolutley!

    Dawson blows this guy out and stops him in the 10th or 11th on total punishment. Diaconu tends to lose grip mentally in a really tough affair(see the Thysse bout where he gave away the last four rounds) and he's very hittable and throws wide.

    Dawson by brutal slaughter stoppage, after 10 rounds of a brutal beatdown.

    Bet the house on Dawson.:yep :good

    Also, Dawson's chin is not bad at all, it's just not great, average I'd say, he was dropped off balance by Harding and was caught flush by Adamek in a spot he didn't see, he got up however and closed the round big, a chinny fighter gets finished in that scenerio.
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Amsterdam, do you think Dawson should do it NOW or later, after 1-2 fights?
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    NOW.

    This is an easy fight, not a challenge stylistically like old man Glen Johnson would be(believe it or not!). Or like one of the awesome guys from 168 moving up would be.

    The LHW division is relatively weak and Diaconu is an average player in it at best who's touted highly for the typical exciting pressure fighting style, he's not even in Dawson's class.

    Chopping Adamek to pieces was a harder challenge then Adrien...
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Then lets get it over with! Do you think Diaconu will charge? I really don't see this going to cards. He has no chance against Dawson on points and will blow himself out trying for a KTFO. I think Dawson will have to KO/TKO him. What do you think?