Chad Dawson v.s Joe Calzaghe

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  1. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    Very interesting fight.
    I'd favour Dawson though. Though if Calzaghe dictates the pace, it'll be a toughie. I still think Dawson would pass the test though, and come away a better fighter after it.
     
  2. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not a big deal though. Peak Roy can't be touched, can't be stopped, can't be moved, can't be rocked... :deal
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :lol:

    That song works for boxing...
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You don't pick Calzaghe in any competitive fight.:-(
     
  5. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    :D
    Not true. I picked him against Bika, and that turned out to be a little competetive.

    I do rate Calzaghe, you know that. I just think Dawson will be something sepcial. But I have to stress that I hope he doesn't rush into something too big before he has time to mature at this level.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Calzaghe was a 10/1 favourite over Bika. Did you pick Lacy over him?:hey
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol...well I would agree with that. He seems to have some of Jones skill set, but not the level. However, I will reserve judgement...you never know.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Nah, Jones would have blasted Adamek the **** out of there in 6 when he was green as all get out.:yep

    For arguments sake, green Calzaghe of the Eubank fight blasts Adamek out of there a bit later, but it would be a brutal raping.
     
  9. pecks

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    Yes.
    I was actually one of the guys who were critical of the Lacy nuthuggers (when they were around). I thought Robin reid would give him a tough fight, and it wasn't until he Ko'd Pemberton in 2 that I started to doubt my own judgement.
    Silly me.
    Though I also tipped him because I was hoping he'd win, as Lacy seems to be more willing to fight the best, and it doesn't bother him if he has to travel for it.
    Put it simply, he'd have been a better champion than Calzaghe, in the essence of going after the bigger and better fights. You'd have to agree with that.

    Although I'd tip against joe in the Kessler, and Dawson fights, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he won both of them with some comfort.
     
  10. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones isn't known for blasting people out there.

    I doubt either Calzaghe or prime Jones would KO Adamek...late TKO for Roy, possibly, but guys like David Telesco and Lou Del Valle went twelve with Roy without even hitting the deck. Supreme skill, even when combined with speed, does not equal power.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Kind of helps being a marketable American pressure fighter that's built like a killing machine, but with stylistic flaws that make you very beatable in the eyes of other fighters... kind of helps in securing bigger names who want money for less risk...

    Than a Welsh physical phenom who gives any fighter in the divisions history a thrashing or a tough as hell fight, but whom is widely considered a euro fraud for most of the 2000's and is widely considered an extreme danger for little money to the big American names and an outright "can't win" fight for true Euro frauds like Ottke.

    You see how much of a ***** it was to get Palle to agree, couple that by 4-5 times on getting an American name and promoter to agree on a Calzaghe fight pre-Lacy and pre-universal respect by fans and thereby popularity and desire to see the guy fight by the viewing public, which generates MONEY for the risk...

    But let's blame Joe, a simple guy from Wales who's been mismanaged by a germ and not embraced by an English majority of boxing fans in the UK.:yep :good

    It finally comes around for him in the end and he will blast Kessler in a career defining performance, sealing his ATG rating and forever making doubters look like utter fools.

    This is the story of Joe Calzaghe's career from the point of view of a longtime fan.:hey
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, this is LHW, and to be sure not Jones prime weight. He was known for blasting people though at 160 and 168. I actually think he could have blasted people at 175 more than he did, but that Benn-McClellan fight caused a noticable change in his demeanor in ring.
     
  13. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones in his prime weight did have considerable pop.

    I was referring to 175 lbs however as that was Adamek's prime weightclass.
     
  14. pecks

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    Well, I believe it's more Warren's fault, but Joe has had plenty of time to leave him, and hasn't, so he must be held accountable to a fair extent.

    If he beats Kessler (he very well could) my opinion of him won't change that greatly. I already know he's a champion boxer. He will still be close to that when he loses (assuming it's a fairly respectable loss). My opinion will probably change of Kessler though. It all depends on what questions get answered.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    The ***** big names who didn't want to take a challenge because of money issue's are any better though?

    This is the problem with modern boxing as a whole, Joe gets the stick as a special case because he's a European with an uncharismatic personality, which goes into something else...

    Joe's a great fighter, but he's not a great intellect, he's just a simple guy from Wales with a phenomina talent and skill level, this is how a guy like Warren can forever call the shots when the bills are being paid for the rest of your life and you have little to no other abilities.

    Supernatural Joe losing?:patsch

    As will most who tout him, though I already know what Kessler is.. the 3rd best guy from the MW-LHW region.