chad dawson vs. mikkel kessler , 170 catchweight , who wins ?

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  1. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    hahahaha watching rudyard and franken remind me of when i had my first beer too,oh the days of yore! 'siaca and woods' lol
     
  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and if miranda vs. abraham II somehow wouldn't have been materialized then Kessler's management would have found a way out for him.
    and if not , then we all know that miranda is not too great of a fighter.
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Like I said, if Kessler wanted to avoid Miranda he had a readymade excuse - Miranda wasn't ranked by the WBA and was therefore not eligable to fight for the title.

    There's no calculated risk, because what is the reward? The only possible reason for Kessler's camp to try to make a fight against Miranda is the obvious one - they wanted to fight him.

    This is utter unsupported and completely illogical bull**** that you are spouting now.
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    It's the worst conspiracy theory ever.

    Facts: Kessler tried to make a fight against Miranda for the WBA title when there was absolutely no compulsion on him to do so.

    Conclusion: He must have been trying to avoid Miranda :patsch
     
  6. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is just getting plain silly... I am not going down to that level of debating. Please have fun in here posting...
     
  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that is to put things into their real prospective.
    and you are the one posting like you moved up from beer in alcohol levels in your drinks.
     
  8. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    What part of my last post didnt you understand...you can try to force your so called " ACUTAL FACTS" all you want to but I'll still take the wordds of a guy that acutally has insight of the situation than a guy that post on a web site.( yes, you!)

    You keep saying that I dont know what I'm talking about but apparently I must have some insight for me to pull up the article.:rofl I love how you try to play the Mr. KNOW IT ALL role! The fact still reamians that Kessler turned down a bout with the rugged Miranda...Thats a fact so deal with it...your boy Kessler is overrated!
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they would have needed a new excuse because of their (already done) influence on miranda's WBA ranking.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    think about it just a little , and see why HBO shouldn't have cared and didn't care for such things.
    i didn't include HBO in any conspiracy , i just said they didn't know nor cared. that's all.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i repeat what i said : even if kessler trully did want to fight miranda , and that's merely an 'if' , i repeat , miranda is not that big of a risk.
    maybe for kessler it could have been considerred a moderated 'stepping up the level'.
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    **** me, you actually don't read what you're replying to, do you?

    One more time: I posted you a complete and accurate timeline of what happened. There were two fights proposed between Miranda and Kessler, in two seperate locations, backed by two different tv companies, the second for a title, the first not. Kessler pulled out of the first, for his own reasons, Miranda turned down the second, for his own reasons.

    The reason that the article you posted doesn't mention the second is that it was written before the second fight had been proposed.

    Is it really this hard?

    By the way, can you confirm who wrote the article you posted? You know, the guy with the 'insight into the situation'. Just interested, like.
     
  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    We know he wanted to fight him. There was no other possible motive to offer him a fight than because he wanted to fight him. Even you can't suggest a possible one that makes sense.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    even if he did wanted to fight him , and again for the blur minded , only an 'if' , called : 'conditional' , fighting miranda is not that big of a deal , for the 3rd time already ! so what ? fighting miranda ! after bringing into considerration that miranda will prefer fighting abraham in a rematch for unanimously justified reasons.
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how can you argue with the fact that miranda will prefer fighting aa , and everyone knew it ?
    if kessler so desperately wanted to fight miranda he could still and i believe still will have a chance to get this fight.
    not that such a fight at this moment contribute to kessler's legacy/negate/take away something from what i said.