Chad Duckin' Dawson: "I am going to show everyone that I can take a punch!"

Hyping?How did I hype him honestly, I just said a fact that he was ducked,that is not hyping,hyping is saying he would KO Valuev with one punch

 

Why the **** would anyone fight an eliminator when they could go straight to the title? Adamek was the one calling the shots, and he thought he could take care of the still-untested Dawson, but he miscalculated. Diaconu is a total non-factor through 2/07, as I showed above.

Only a total imbecile would suggest that Dawson should have foregone a title opportunity to fight an eliminator for the SAME belt. Does that compute for you?

 

January 08,march 08,after Johnson=3 ducks,does that compute for you?:hi:

 

Huh? Are you a boxing fan, or just a Diaconu fan? It sounds like the latter.

You'll notice that fighters don't drop belts unless they get to a point where they don't them and don't care to pay the fees. A young and relatively unknown fighter like Dawson needed the WBC belt for marketing purposes, so dropping it would have been extremely stupid.

Your lack of understanding on this is perplexing. You seem to be suggesting that Dawson should have bucked his promoter and Showtime by dropping the belt and the Johnson fight, and for what? He wanted Tarver, but Tarver wasn't available. Johnson was the very best opponent he could face and the guy Showtime wanted him to fight.

Also, Dawson did agree to fight Diaconu, and your man pulled out. So much for "no intention of ever doing so."

Dawson and his promoter are acting rationally, making the decisions that are best for his career. This is what nearly every fighter does. Dropping the WBC belt made sense when he could get Tarver, as Tarver is a more noteworthy opponent than Diaconu, and especially considering that American TV had no interest in covering the bout in Romania.

Dawson isn't responsible for Diaconu's career. If Diaconu wants to improve his profile, he probably needs to look better than he did against Chris Henry, and he needs to take on someone better than McKart. He's not that young, and no one in America cares about him.

All that said, I actually agree with you that Dawson/Diaconu would be an interesting fight. I was excited for it last September, but again, Chad had nothing to do with it not happening. This whole stink would have been avoided if Diaconu hadn't gotten hurt. No one's fault, but that's the way it goes.

 

Diaconu came back from injury in October. He was reinstated as mandatory challenger by the WBC. Here, the story turns sour. Dawson argued that since Diaconu had pulled out, he shouldn't have to fight him. He argued that his fight against Mendoza should count as his mandatory defence of his title and that Diaconu's status as mandatory challenger should be revoked. The WBC, rightfully, insisted that since Diaconu has pulled out with a bona fide injury and was presently both very able and eager to challenge Dawson for the title, the Champion, Dawson, should make arrangements to fight his mandatory, Diaconu, as soon as possible, before fighting anyone else.

Incredibly, Dawson ignored the WBC's ruling. He refused to enter negotiations with Diaconu. This is the first time that Dawson ducked Diaconu. Not only had he tried to have Diaconu's mandatory status revoked for good, but he ignored a direct order from the WBC to fight Diaconu. Instead, Dawson was still chasing Tarver. Realising that Tarver remained uninterested in a fight against him at this stage, requiring more time to get back into shape and put his career back on track, Dawson started chasing a fight against 39-year old legend Glen Johnson instead. The "Road Warrior", Dawson thought, would be great risk/reward. A win over Johnson would make him well-known and open many doors for the ambitious Dawson.

Having ignored the WBC's ruling and ducked Diaconu, Dawson entered formal negotiations with Johnson in late 2007. In doing so, he ducked his mandatory challenger Diaconu a second time!

Surprisingly, the WBC didn't take Dawson's slight to heart, forgave him for his transgression, changed its mind in his favour and very generously permitted Dawson to fight Johnson first, as long as he agreed to fight Diaconu (if he remained Champion) by the 15th of March 2008. With this in mind, the WBC ordered Dawson to fight Johnson by the 15th of January 2008 at the latest. Dawson agreed. However, for the second time, he broke his promise to the WBC and ignored their ruling. The 15th of January deadline passed, as did the 15th of March deadline, and not only had Dawson failed to fight Diaconu, but he had not even started negotiations with him, nor had he managed to fight Johnson, with whom he had signed a deal, yet. In doing so, Chad Dawson ducked Adrian Diaconu for the third time. The WBC had finally had enough. Dawson had failed to honour his contractual obligations to the sanctioning body and to his mandatory challenger three times now, and having been forgiven twice only for him to go back on his word, enough was enough. For having repeatedly ducked his mandatory challenger, he was to be stripped of his title. Chad Dawson's fight against Glen Johnson was to be a non-title fight. After all, Dawson wasn't the only boxer in the world that should be allowed to fight for a world title. Diaconu had done more than enough to earn his shot at the title and Dawson had no right not only not to fight him, as his mandatory, but also to stop him from competing for the title by hugging the belt indefinitely. Too much was too much.

The most demeaning, dishonourable part of the sordid affair was yet to pass, however. Having ducked Diaconu and having arranged to fight Johnson long after the deadline, threatened with being stripped of his title, Dawson, accompanied by his promoter, Gary Shaw, reportedly flew over to Mexico and camped out for two days in front of the WBC President's residence, begging to be allowed in to petition him. Thus, after they had waited for two days outside his house, the WBC President allowed them in, unwillingly. Dawson begged him to sanction his fight against Glen Johnson as a title fight, claiming poverty and arguing he would be unable to feed his family if he were stripped. Impressed by his sorry story of woe, the WBC President forgave him for the third time, sided with him again and finally agreed to sanction the fight against Johnson as a world title fight. Having been reprieved for a third time, unbelievably, Dawson lowered himself even further. Having ducked Diaconu three times and having stopped him from competing for a world title three times by hugging the belt, and having just been allowed to fight Johnson with the belt on the table, Dawson had the nerve to ask the WBC President to revoke Diaconu's mandatory status for good yet again, so that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would never have to face Diaconu ever again! In other words, he demanded that Diaconu never get a title shot for the WBC title! The WBC President, flabbergasted at the request, couldn't bring himself to swallow yet another injustice. He told Dawson that he would allow Diaconu to fight for the WBC Interim Championship and that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would have to fight the WBC Interim Champion within 120 days, or get stripped of his share of the title. Incredibly, the President even asked Dawson to sign a contract agreeing to respect this ruling of the WBC

 

thunder & AR, you won't get anywhere with Lampley. He won't engage with this subject in good faith. It's best to give up and concentrate on the technical aspects of the fight:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90253

 

He's just bias and stupid and ignorant:-(

 

No, he's not; he's just acting in bad faith, which is worse.

 

I'm not the one who is suggesting that a fighter should bypass a title shot to take on an eliminator for the same belt. How does that make sense to you?

 

You always say this, but it isn't true. We can disagree without either party acting in bad faith. I have accused you in the past of being intellectually dishonest, because you don't seem to ever respond to my points, but not acting in bad faith.

 

January 08: Was pursuing Tarver, a superior fight over Diaconu.

March 08: Had signed to fight Johnson, a superior fight over Diaconu.

Post-Johnson: Got the Tarver fight.

I understand your frustration over Dawson's lack of enthusiasm for facing Diaconu, but he was acting in the interests of advancing his career.

I would say that he *avoided* Diaconu in order to pursue better fights, but ducking makes it sound like Dawson is scared, and quite frankly there is little reason and no evidence that he's scared.

 

Especially when Dioconu struggled with a lesser fight in Henry. I doubt Dawson is afraid to fight him.

 

How does saying to fight a guy 3times and refusing everytime make sense to you?

 

January 08:Chad:No,I wont fight'em like I said,fight'em in march''
March 08:Chad:No,I wont fight'em like I said and obligated by an agreement signed with the WBC,fight'em after Johnson
After Johnson:Chad:No,I won't fight him like I said and was obligated and will vacate the title after I lose the purse bid(in case I win the purse bid maybe I'll fight'em,my dad being one of the judges)
Man avoiding is ducking,come onatsch