Chad Duckin' Dawson: "I am going to show everyone that I can take a punch!"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Sep 14, 2008.


  1. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    Nice,she didn't look boring but I ,yself gotta smoke some **** from time to time,not much drinking but a little more sice I retired
     
  2. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

    7,508
    3
    Oct 30, 2005
    The bottom line is that Dawson/Diaconu isn't ready yet.

    If Dawson defeats Tarver and Diaconu ultimately defeats Johnson, that eliminates those two old hands from the picture. Then, Calzaghe, Jones and Hopkins all are on the way out as well, and clown Erdei can't be too far behind.

    At that point, late 2009 or early 2010, you're talking about Dawson, Diaconu, Cloud, Kessler, Pavlik, Taylor, Bute, Froch, Ward and Dirrell, among others, depending on how it shakes out.

    Pretty soon, there will be lots of good fights around 175, and not involving these old-timers we see today. If Diaconu is as good as you guys say, he'll get his opportunities.
     
  3. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

    12,032
    2
    Oct 12, 2007
    Good post Lampley:good I don't see a few of the fighters you listed moving up but after Diaconus two mandatories(Branco and Johnson) I see him chasing after Erdei and Garay both of which I see getting KTFO by Diaconu. Diaconu just wants to fight and beat the best, he has a big heart, skill, power and is fun to watch
     
  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    I agree butthat doesn't change the ducking/avoiding situation,that was a good opportunity and I know you gonna say he pulled out injured but he should have plenty of opportunities to fight Dawson,but that is not the point,you're right
     
  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    Garay has his hands full with Brahmer in november but that Erdei guy is a big *******,I will stay drunk a month when he gets KTFO
     
  6. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

    18,614
    8
    Apr 10, 2005
    Wow I feel like I'm in a ****ing twilight zone. Now I remember why I stay in the lounge. For what reason on gods green earth would Dawson drop his belt for no reason when he is not even being ask to???:patsch You guys are like the Romanian verison of Pac man fans you really have no clue about boxing.:patsch
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    Diaconu came back from injury in October. He was reinstated as mandatory challenger by the WBC. Here, the story turns sour. Dawson argued that since Diaconu had pulled out, he shouldn't have to fight him. He argued that his fight against Mendoza should count as his mandatory defence of his title and that Diaconu's status as mandatory challenger should be revoked. The WBC, rightfully, insisted that since Diaconu has pulled out with a bona fide injury and was presently both very able and eager to challenge Dawson for the title, the Champion, Dawson, should make arrangements to fight his mandatory, Diaconu, as soon as possible, before fighting anyone else.

    Incredibly, Dawson ignored the WBC's ruling. He refused to enter negotiations with Diaconu. This is the first time that Dawson ducked Diaconu. Not only had he tried to have Diaconu's mandatory status revoked for good, but he ignored a direct order from the WBC to fight Diaconu. Instead, Dawson was still chasing Tarver. Realising that Tarver remained uninterested in a fight against him at this stage, requiring more time to get back into shape and put his career back on track, Dawson started chasing a fight against 39-year old legend Glen Johnson instead. The "Road Warrior", Dawson thought, would be great risk/reward. A win over Johnson would make him well-known and open many doors for the ambitious Dawson.

    Having ignored the WBC's ruling and ducked Diaconu, Dawson entered formal negotiations with Johnson in late 2007. In doing so, he ducked his mandatory challenger Diaconu a second time!

    Surprisingly, the WBC didn't take Dawson's slight to heart, forgave him for his transgression, changed its mind in his favour and very generously permitted Dawson to fight Johnson first, as long as he agreed to fight Diaconu (if he remained Champion) by the 15th of March 2008. With this in mind, the WBC ordered Dawson to fight Johnson by the 15th of January 2008 at the latest. Dawson agreed. However, for the second time, he broke his promise to the WBC and ignored their ruling. The 15th of January deadline passed, as did the 15th of March deadline, and not only had Dawson failed to fight Diaconu, but he had not even started negotiations with him, nor had he managed to fight Johnson, with whom he had signed a deal, yet. In doing so, Chad Dawson ducked Adrian Diaconu for the third time. The WBC had finally had enough. Dawson had failed to honour his contractual obligations to the sanctioning body and to his mandatory challenger three times now, and having been forgiven twice only for him to go back on his word, enough was enough. For having repeatedly ducked his mandatory challenger, he was to be stripped of his title. Chad Dawson's fight against Glen Johnson was to be a non-title fight. After all, Dawson wasn't the only boxer in the world that should be allowed to fight for a world title. Diaconu had done more than enough to earn his shot at the title and Dawson had no right not only not to fight him, as his mandatory, but also to stop him from competing for the title by hugging the belt indefinitely. Too much was too much.

    The most demeaning, dishonourable part of the sordid affair was yet to pass, however. Having ducked Diaconu and having arranged to fight Johnson long after the deadline, threatened with being stripped of his title, Dawson, accompanied by his promoter, Gary Shaw, reportedly flew over to Mexico and camped out for two days in front of the WBC President's residence, begging to be allowed in to petition him. Thus, after they had waited for two days outside his house, the WBC President allowed them in, unwillingly. Dawson begged him to sanction his fight against Glen Johnson as a title fight, claiming poverty and arguing he would be unable to feed his family if he were stripped. Impressed by his sorry story of woe, the WBC President forgave him for the third time, sided with him again and finally agreed to sanction the fight against Johnson as a world title fight. Having been reprieved for a third time, unbelievably, Dawson lowered himself even further. Having ducked Diaconu three times and having stopped him from competing for a world title three times by hugging the belt, and having just been allowed to fight Johnson with the belt on the table, Dawson had the nerve to ask the WBC President to revoke Diaconu's mandatory status for good yet again, so that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would never have to face Diaconu ever again! In other words, he demanded that Diaconu never get a title shot for the WBC title! The WBC President, flabbergasted at the request, couldn't bring himself to swallow yet another injustice. He told Dawson that he would allow Diaconu to fight for the WBC Interim Championship and that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would have to fight the WBC Interim Champion within 120 days, or get stripped of his share of the title. Incredibly, the President even asked Dawson to sign a contract agreeing to respect this ruling of the WBC:deal
     
  8. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

    18,614
    8
    Apr 10, 2005
    And if Diaconu and his people wanted Dawson SOOOOOOOOOO bad why would they choose to have the fight in Romania??? Why not in America or even Canada for that matter???
     
  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    They won the purse bid so they can take the fight on the moon if they want.And again you are wrong,they wanted the fight in Romania and Canada but Canada was the second on the list,the fans want Diaconu's title fights in Romania
     
  10. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

    18,614
    8
    Apr 10, 2005
    That's what it really is. And if Diaconu wants to fight Dawson he should take on big names in america so he can get exposure and have networks like Showtime and HBO want the fight and push Dawson to take the fight and also want the money to be good enough for Dawson to want the fight instead of looking else where for bigger names.
     
  11. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

    18,614
    8
    Apr 10, 2005
    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl You're really reaching now.
     
  12. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    It's easy for you to say,you'r american and so is Dawson,you guys want Dawson in USA,we want Diaconu in Romania,it is a normal thing and that's why purse bids exist
     
  13. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    So he had a easy figth with Glen?:huh .All I can say is open you'r eyes:-( :-(
     
  14. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

    18,614
    8
    Apr 10, 2005
    He will be at the Gate keeper level cause Johnson will **** his *******.:deal
     
  15. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

    38,466
    21
    Apr 7, 2008
    We will have to wait and you will have to shake with the thought that Diaconu will beat Johnson and make Dawson look like a fool(which he already is).Don't worry it will be competitive and Diaconu can take Glen