Chagaev verus Valuev. Your pick and are you interested?

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  1. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield showed that any semblance of footwork and movement is pure cryptonite for Valuev, though obviously he got robbed in the end. Valuev doesn't deserve to be called a champion and neither does anyone who can't manage to beat him (excluding illegitimate wins), so hopefully Chagaev can get the job done.
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Valuev by Huggfest/Inside wet & hairy UD.
    & No. Not interested.... will prob ******* just because tho.
     
  3. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev UD, this time Valuev edges it.
     
  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    If I wasn't interested before, I am now that I threw some cash down on Chagaev to win.
     
  5. papptheking

    papptheking Active Member Full Member

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    of course i am excited. ruslan will win by a decision. i cannot decide by what type officially though as they will most likely try to rob him, but i know it will be clear to the fans who the winner is.
     
  6. Kampioni

    Kampioni Good Boy Full Member

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    Valuev wins via Robbery
     
  7. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Valuev takes this with close UD.
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He's fighting Chagaev so the scores will be neutral in this one. Picking Chagaev by UD, though pretty sure they will make it SD, a draw isn't out of the question.
     
  9. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    This will be a SUCK (Sorry Undertalented Champions who won't fight the Klitschko's) fest.

    Chagaev by decision.

    And then he should fight Holyfield next seeing how Holyfield is the WBA Champion minus the belt.
     
  11. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev is just terrible, one of the worst champions in Boxing, but I'll probably watch it all the same in the hope that Chagaev still has enough left to get rid of this imposter.
     
  12. Rick G

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    Valuev by UD if the judges score effectiveness over volume. As always Valuevs opponent will connect often, but without visible effect on the giant. For me a boxer scores if he connects with a punch that delivers some power. In most cases Valuev did not even blink when hit, so the effectiveness of his opponents punches are questionable. To hit Valuevs head you have to close the distance, find the gap, punch upwards, partially blocked by the big arm, with an inconvenient angle, then Valuev moves his head a little bit and takes the remaining smack without a blink. No point given from me.
    And yes, as a casual fan I am very interested in the fight!
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Here you go bro:

    Ring Magazine, April 2009, Page 102.

    "...[the] lacklustre encounter was noteable mostly for the scoring controversy that ensued...the merits of the controversy are debateable...the TV audience...maintained that Holyfield clearly deserved the nod. But out of the 50 writers ringside who were polled by a newspaper, 48 of them scored it for Valuev. The Ring scored it 115-113 for Valuev."
     
  14. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To my memory, Holyfield clearly won the first 5 or possibly 6 rounds (not a fight i want to remember). I am certain there were a number of rounds where Valuev didn't land a single blow to the head. Valuev won the majority of the second half of the fight but a single round to Holyfield in there would have won him the fight.

    I wouldn't dare going back to score it though. The only way you could score any more than six rounds to Valuev is by penalising Holyfield for his ring movement, saying he ran and avoided exchanges, even though Valuev made zero attempts to cutoff the ring and Holyfield outlanded him 5-1 (literally, 5 punches to 1).
     
  15. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thx. Interesting. Somehow I have my doubts of the source of the german paper, WTF, they interviewed 50 writers, really? But it really doesn't matter, let them score that way, I noted the ringside scoring difficulties with Valuev, impossible.

    Pls look for a quality copy, sit down and score the fight, look to give every single round to someone, only score a draw if absolutely nothing happened or the same amount of same kind of punches landed. Even uneventful fights can be scored properly, it just takes extra attention. I guarantee you won't find 4 Valuev rounds.

    I don't want to convince anyone, hey, we all have different opinions, but it's one of those rare situations when I feel an outrageous robbery happened, and there are people who somehow saw it very differently, which is hard for me to understand.