Chagaev vs. Sanders

I don't think Corrie Sanders is a better fighter than Lamon Brewster for the record. As for who is better between Chagaev and Sanders, well I'll say that Chagaev is the much better career fighter, but doesn't have the ability to harm Wlad the way that Sanders did. The power and handspeed are simply on two very different levels. Ruslan does have better stamina, boxing skills, workrate, and wins over better comp....

That's about the best I can do...

 

No Way! Sanders was an unrated journeyman at the time. In fact up until the wladimir fight, he had never even been rated in the top 10 or beat someone in the top 10. Sanders is perhaps the 2nd most overrated heavyweight of the modern era. Sanders was nothing more than a one hit wonder journeyman. Sanders had horrible boxing technique, he was a 3 round fighter at best, he had a poor chin, and pitiful stamina. The first time he ever stepped up to face a world class fighter, he lost to Hasim Rahman.


I would say Chris Byrd, Hasim Rahman, Calvin Brock, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, are all better and more proven top 10 fighters! I could even add a couple more on to that list.

 

Sanders power and speed is vastly overrated. It didnt do him any good vs Hasim Rahman, Nate Tubbs, or Vitali Klitschko. Outside of Wlad, what top 10 world class figthers did Sanders unleash his "freak of nature like handspeed and power" on????

 

I personally would have picked Brewster to beat Sanders in a head to head match, what's more I'm not sure what your reason is for thinking that Sanders is better against most opponents than Brewster.. Lamon clearly fought a better list of men, and wasn't beaten as badly by lesser opponents.

I will also ad that Suzie Q has a good point about men like Chris Byrd and Hasim Rahman being better fighters as well. Not sure that I agree with him about Brock or Ibragimov, but I think the point is pretty clear - Sanders was NOT the best man to face Wladimir Klitschko...

 

Lol, Suzie's copy and paste Sander's posts never fail to make me chuckle.

 

Ruslan does have pretty good handspeed...but he generates it from a smaller frame then Corrie did.

 

Let me clearify that BROCK and IBRAGIMOV were NOT MY picks.

As for head to head abilities, I would still pick Byrd, Rahman and Brewster over Sanders against most top flight heavyweights... Rahman defeated both Lennox Lewis AND Corrie Sanders. 'Nuff said. Byrd beat Golata, Vitali, and Tua. In addition to also beating a number of better contenders than Sanders did, Brewster defeated Wladimir Klitschko when Emanuel Steward was IN HIS CORNER - something that Sanders did not do.. Hell, I still don't know who I'd credit as being Sanders second best win... Bobby Cyz Maybe????

 

And what was Sanders when he fought Wlad? 37 years old, only fighting on average once per year, long history of injuries, no world beaters on his record to speak of, and often had the preference to play golf over training?

Perhaps, but I'd really have to see it to believe it.

Okay now we agree.

Probably a crowd disappointing fight with little action and a lot of fast, soft punches thrown. Although Ruslan has never lost, I am inclined to thinking that Chris might pull out a decision.

i think he might do fairly well against most of Wlad's top flight opponents, but I don't think he beats all of them nor looking very impressive for that matter. He is for the most part, an indecisive winner when it comes to facing ranked opponents.

 

Brock and Ibragimov were UNDEFEATED top rated mandatories, both in the RING top 10. Certainly far more accomplished than sanders.

 

Chagaev soundly defeats Sanders, head-to-head. He has an iron chin and excellent upper body movement/defence that will see him through the first rounds. After that he'll start coming on and somewhere during the middle rounds, i think the South African folds. He also has loses his southpaw advantage because Ruslan is one as well.