Champions Entering Ring Last?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Feb 26, 2021.


  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    When did this tradition start to occur, the challenger entering the ring first? Or had it always being that way.
    And Jack Johnson? I'm quite sure he actually entered the ring first whilst the champion, is that true?
     
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  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember that for some weird reason Larry Holmes as champion got announced first prior to his bout with Gerry Cooney.
     
  3. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    It is widely believed to be a purposeful disrespect to dear Ol Larry.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Really? That's a little bit of a snub to Larry there.
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not good, they should have shown a little respect to the champ!
     
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  6. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha, don’t beat around the bush, son you think it was racist don’t you?
     
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  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Definitely,Fergy. I also read that President Ronald Reagan phoned Gerry to wish him luck beforehand. The champion did n't receive a call.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Remember reading that Stevie, they must have had a lot of faith in Gerry!
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Not sure Son, what about you son??
     
  10. JackSilver

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    Yeah I think it was racist for sure ferguson but Holmes was no innocent either. He played his part in the buildup as well. Ever stevie wonder could see that.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles was once announced first. In his fight vs Pat Valentino, he was in front of a hate-filled crowd of 20,000 and they were all rooting for the San Francisco hero. Charles was a combination of extremely disrespected and immensely obsequious in negotiations simply accepted it and got on with business. Some at the time thought it was a pretty deep sign of disrespect. Most actually, aside from about 20,000 rabid fans in the Cow Palace.
     
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  12. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's 100% because he was white.
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I've always had a deep respect for Charles. How he bravely battled in his fights with Marciano.
    And then when he suffered with his health at a young age. I've never heard anything really bad said about him. I can totally belive that he didn't let those idiots bother him here and he just got his nut down and got on with it.
    Classy guy was Mr Charles.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I think most people have a good amount of respect for Charles. It's hard not to respect someone who never gave anybody any grief, fought all comers and never gave up. He kept himself to himself and got on with what he was doing, no matter the circumstance. He was classy in victory and defeat, and refused to indulge some of the more colourful characters he encountered. After the death of Baroudi, he'd showed true class with his denoting of the purse, and desperately looking to console Sam's family and visit Sam in the hospital. Even Lesnevich, who denied him gold for so many years, was treated with as much respect as anybody outside of the ring.

    He certainly didn't deserve the **** he got from the press, who's favourite, derogatory line was "that he wasn't Joe Louis". His string of boring performances, or uninspiring opposition and disputed title claim didn't help either. When he beat Louis, it was just the last straw. I don't think anybody could be liked in that situation.
     
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  15. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Well said Mate!
    Im not a expert on Ezz, not like your good self, but I think he's vastly underrated by a few and he seemed to have a grace about him that few fighters have.
     
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