Changed view point regarding mosley - pac

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  1. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    changing your tune that pac needs to get out of 147..

    it makes no sense for him to fight at 154 if he doesn't even fight above 150.

    makes no sense for him to fight at 140 when he comes in less than 150.

    he's an 8 time f'n champion. what more do you want in your eyes?

    on paper, berto would have looked great on pac's resume. truth of the matter is/was is that berto was way overrated to begin with. hadn't fought a meaningful fight in years.

    Hate to say it but if Pac stops Mosley, its going to be a fantastic win. nobody stops Mosley except for Vernon Forrest and that was at 154..

    the standard for pac is a KO. anything less is/has been disappointing for unreasonable fans.

    Its going to be a live fight. Mosley ain't getting on his bicycle.
     
    DobyZhee, Apr 30, 2011
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  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Even though I had preferred other ones I don't think I ever slagged this fight off, myself. But, I usually have a devil's advocate attitude for the underdog and I've said before that results against what is likely the best pure boxer of our generation and a very big spoiler in Mora at 154 may be very misleading and I'm not counting on anything for sure.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Should have been berto at 147 or a top lightwelter at 140.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You're not understanding me so i'll make it clearer.

    As a welterweight contender mosley is a very good opponent.

    For someone as good as pac (who has openly admitted he can make 140) he isn't so good.

    The thing is, I rate pac higher than you, when you ask what I want, I spelled it out before. Floyd, berto, jmm, martinez, alvarez at all the opponents ideal weight. I think he could win all of them fights and i'd love to be proven correctly.

    He is too good for 147. Maybe I just rate him higher than you do, I dunno.
     
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  5. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Understand Mosley is the bigger fighter. I believe Mosley fought his last fight at 154. Understand Shane Mosley knocked out Antonio Margarito at 147. The Casinos have Shane as a 6-1 underdog. I am going to straddle Shane Mosley +600 with Manny Pacquiao to win by........ Pause. decision

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  6. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    How come 147division is weak? It just happened that Berto lost, but replaced by Ortiz; Cotto and Margo went north (154); and Moldsley is one 39-year old top WW; Vacationhead still waiting for Pac to retire; and..


    **** it. WW is weak. Blame Pac for that.
     
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  7. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Blame Floyd for that. All the real warriors fought each other. Cotto, Clottey, Magarito, Pac and Shane. Floyd waited for Shane to be shot. Wait he picked the oldest WW @ 39 ? Shocking. He outboxed a 39 year old ? Shocking. He nearly got knocked out. Nobody expected that. I expected Shane to finish him off because I knew about the weak punch resistance. if the weak punch resistance did not exist he would test his boxing skills against the best WW's.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah aside from floyd and ortiz there is nothing at welterweight for pac. That being said, in the next couple of years the 140 guys could jump up and that'd make for some big fights.

    I like pac in 5 weights he proven the be the best fighter. Not so impressed with not taking on jmm at 135. Unsure about his tenure at super bantamweight, dunno why he never captured the lineal belt there. The less said about 154 the better.

    But still, I think 4 lineal champs is a record is it not? Plus if he fights ortiz next that'd make 5.
     
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