Changes to the present scoring system

Not really all judges are different. If the fighter loses the round but scores a knockdown it should be scored 9-8, I just think in most cases the fighter scoring a knockdown is winning the round.
One point deduction for losing the round
Two points for scoring a knockdown and winning the round.

Those are the rules.
One sided rounds are in some cases scored 10-8 without a knockdown
If a fighter wins the round and knocks down a fighter more than once its a point for each knockdown
The existing system for the most part is good.

 

Great post, completely agree. A none corrupt governing body would be something to, didnt McCain try to get this through

 

And I get what you're saying and agree with most of what you've said, but I think in a perfect world the first thing to do would be to establish a pool of competent, professional, (which means that the judges are not friends of someone in the sanctioning bodies who got the job as a favor, and ask people in the crowd how the round should have been scored because they weren't watching) and reliable judges.

Take the best of the existing judges, do professional hiring of others complete with actual training and looking over how they score fights, and definitely with the inquiries and reviews you mentioned for crazy scorecards.

Look, regardless of whether a judge can only score a round 10-9 without a KD or can score a round 10-7 or whatever at will, a corrupt or incompetent judge is going to be corrupt or incompetent. Which is why I say do at least some overhaul of the judging pools, (or at least institute the reviews and training first) before doing the scoring system.

Having at least some of the reforms about how judges are picked, trained, and reviewed in place first will do much more to help boxing than changing the scoring system without making those reforms. Obviously, in a perfect world both things could be accomplished at once, but if we had to pick an order I'd say at least with the reforms for judges, then when you're confident in the competency of at least some of the judges, you can tinker with the scoring system and give greater discretion to the judges.

 

I never understood the argument for NOT scoring rounds "even" if they are even. I just dont get that. If a round is even, score it even. If a fight is even, hopefully the scores will come up with a draw.
I actually prefer to see a fight ruled a draw when it's arguable so close it could go either way. I dont want to see any fighter get a "loss" on his record on a razor-close split decision, that's like getting beat in a system that's basically a lottery.

But I'm less concerned with "bad" decisions than I used to be. It will never be perfect, and things can look different from different angles, and it will always be somewhat subjective.
Maybe we should just have the fighters fight to the finish.

 

Its more a case of judges wanting to get further paydays from a promoter so scoring the fight for the promoters fighter, rarely do you see a bad score go against the hometown fighter

 

I always think a fighter gets at least some edge in a certain round.

 

i did not know that it is only one point for each knockdown , but even so , pac should have gotten a 10-6 round against marquez didn't he ? and what did he get ? 10-7 .
i think a knockdown should indeed receive 1 point at least , but bernard hopkins pushes and water in roy-jones' corner do not count as knockdowns. flash knockdowns should be credited as well. in reality/street fight / MMA a knockdown will almost every time lead to a brutal stoppage (if there is someone whom can stop the fight at all).
10-9 for a close round is bad. this is one of the biggest opportunities for a corrupt judge to score as he wants.
close rounds should be 10-10 if we use the 10 point must system.
clean effective punching should be credited , but so should aggression (moving forward).
so the present scoring system is not that bad after all. neither are the judges , most of the time. for me , almost every time , if a fighter scored the single knockdown of the fight , he should be the winner.
giving equal score for close rounds is a good way to achieve it.
byrd did not beat tua and neither did ibeabuchi , these two fights should have been scored as draws , maybe even a tua win in the byrd fight , as he was the aggressor . the lewis fight should have also been scored closer than it did.
pacquiao should have been declared as the winner in the first marquez fight , not to get a draw. and people claim marquez has got robbed.
reggie johnson should have at least got a draw against toney.
tiberi also , i guess even a close win.