Chapo's injury- the best thing that could have happened to Rosario?

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  1. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Its a little known fact now, or little remembered, but Alexis Arguello and Edwin Rosario were very close to squaring off once, in February of 1983 at either Miami or San Antonio, for the WBC world lightweight title. Im sure it was going to be at the Orange Bowl in Miami but since Arguello ended up boxing Vilomar Fernandez in their rematch at Freeman Coliseum in San Antonio, Im not 100 percent sure.

    Of course, this was all during the course of the WBA's bottle investigation concerning Pryor-Arguello I and Pryor and Arguello ended up rematching.

    Rosario got his wrist re-injured about two weeks before the fght, therefore cancelling "this trip to Miami".

    My question is, considering Arguello was by now a full-fledged Junior Welterweight, could he have struggled to make weight and thus Rosario upset him, or was this injury the best thing ever to happen to Rosario?

    I personally consider Arguello a superior fighter than Rosario, specially the green version of Chapo we'd be getting here versus a very seasoned pro in Arguello. I think Arguello beats Rosario almost every time, but also we gotta consider Arguello's age at this stage.

    What is your take?
     
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  2. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Rosario losing to ARguello wouldn´t change much his legacy, I think everyone considers Arguello a superior fighter.
    But if we take into consideration your points about ARguello making weight, and how this affects performances all the ****ing time without we even realizing (Jofre fights against Harada comes to mind), if Rosario had a win over Arguello, we would see Rosario in a different light ! He is almost forgotten today when we think about puerto rican fighters..
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    You are right, they were going to square off "prior to Pryor" II.

    I believe you may have the date mixed up. The plan was to fight Fernandez and then defend against Rosario. Fernandez was always scheduled for February (26) so there's a reasonable chance you are right on the proposed location of Arguello - Rosario.
     
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    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    So he fought Claude Noel 2 months after Fernandez.

    Rosario actually fought Ramirez for Arguello's vacant title in May hmmmmmm.

    Finally!!!! Here is the exact reason why the Rosario fight fell thru and when, basically. Your struggling to make the weight speculation is bang on valid. So Arguello's second warm up for Pryor ended up being Claude Noel around 140 pounds.

    This is Feb 2.

    'Dear Mr. President (Jose Sulaiman), this cable confirms my decision to give up the lightweight title of the World Boxing Council because I could not reach the 135-pound limit while training for the Vilomar Fernandez fight,' Arguello's telegram said.

    'I have tried to lose weight but my body feels too weak to continue and reach 135 pounds,' Arguello said in his telegram.

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/02/15/Arguello-gives-up-his-lightweight-title/3885414133200/
     
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    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I think the Pryor war took Arguello's prime with it. He was still fighting at a brilliant level in the first Pryor fight but being knocked unconscious for almost 4 minutes at the end of an ATG war was too much given his age and the amount of wars behind him.
     
  6. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Arguello was a little bit brittle after about '81, and not as fluid. I could see Rosario, who was very quick and precise with his punches, surprising Arguello early, but the Nicaraguan was too calm and learned for the still green Rosaio to finish off. Arguello brutalizes the body here, with Rosario's "elbows out" posture he had aiding things for Alexis.

    Arguello by stoppage around the 8th or 9th.
     
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  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. That elbows out style against a devasating 2 handed body puncher. Yikes.

    I sure did not like him against Chavez for that reason and think this matchup is on par--or worse--here.
     
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