Charles Or Jeffries??

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Nov 12, 2020.


Who ranks highest?

  1. James J Jeffries?

    50.0%
  2. Ezzard Charles?

    50.0%
  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Of the two, who you Rank the higher?
    I've got Ezzard at 15 and James J Jeffries one below.
    Both had a good number of defence s and both got beat by greats - Johnson and Marciano.
    Who s your pick?
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Jeffries at HW. P4P it's Charles. I don't think either are very close.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Charles for P4P, HW and H2H. :deal:
     
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  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Jeffries dominated an era. Charles split his series with Walcott and picked up other losses, as well as losing to Marciano. So if you're going to claim he's greater it'd have to be based on fighting in a stronger era, but his era at HW was pretty weak and depleted.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I almost completely agree with this. But I would say that Charles could arguably be above Jeffries - however I see it clearly to Jeffries.

    No question of Jeffries getting anywhere near Charles p4p.
     
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  7. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    I give charles the edge in H2H matchup, skills , and quality of opposition.
    Gotta give Jeffries the edge in Legend of His Time status,
     
  8. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Yeah, this right here. Jeffries was considered unbeatable and the best ever at the time of his reign. Charles wasn't ever considered an ATG at HW...unless someone corrects me here.
     
  9. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Hard to say I wasnt around back then but the history books writing about them in completely different fashions.

    Charles could never escape the shadows of either Louis or Marciano
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    actually I WAS around when Charles was champ! Not Jeffries, I'm not THAT old.
     
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  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Jeffries dominated a definable era, and Charles doesn't really have a short term dominance card to paly, so I would have to give it to Jeffries.
     
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think your rating of them is very reasonable. I myself am not certain who should rank higher at heavyweight but p4p Charles is in a whole different universe above Jeffries
     
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  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^^^^This^^^^
     
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  14. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Wow, did you watch fights at that time?
     
  15. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Yep....Gillette Friday Night fights...on my father's knee. I'm talking Charles, not Jeffries. Only Mcvey is that old.