Charley Burley v Roy Jones jr at middle weight

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Stevie G, Apr 7, 2011.


  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,149
    8,624
    Jul 17, 2009
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,011
    48,108
    Mar 21, 2007
    Burley came to the ring at around 150, 152 in his prime.

    Jones came to the ring in his prime at between 165 and 173, say.

    Jones is to big and to good. It would be points though.
     
  3. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,658
    78
    Jan 21, 2006
    I agree.

    Burley is one of those older fighters I think looks great on film, though. I think he had some tools to give Roy some problems, but Roy's speed, talent, size, and big punch at his prime weights would be decisive.
     
  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

    21,677
    52
    Sep 8, 2007
    it's interesting as eddie futch called charley burley the greatest all around fighter he's ever seen and that of all the fighters in the modern day, roy jones was the one that most closely reminded him of burley

    i do see similarities in their styles and i think it would be a very interesting, tactical fight. jones size and speed would play a factor but i'd love to see it regardless of how it plays out
     
  5. D.T

    D.T Guest

    Nobody in history beats Jones from Middleweight to Light-Heavyweight.
     
  6. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,795
    27
    Jan 6, 2010
    Did Futch really say that? High prasie indeed. Stonehands comapared Burley and Jones in his article I think.

    Thing is though if Burley was the Jones prototype, why were people complaining that he was boring to watch? Whataver your view is on Roy Jones, you gotta admit watching him was exciting, how was Burley unexciting if he was like Roy?
     
  7. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

    19,654
    52
    Jan 19, 2010
    Any good reference fights for Jones against someone near Burley's mobility? I can't recall any and it'd be nice to think about.

    Anyway I favor jones just on activity alone, I get the feeling Burley took his time too often sometimes and it cost him on points
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,011
    48,108
    Mar 21, 2007
    Burley mixed it up a bit, but he certainly boxed at his own pace. Burley was not a showman, not at all. He boxed with perfect economy and he never played to the gallery. But remember, whilst you may have been excited by Jones, he was a box office flop. He never made crazy money specifically because people found his style boring.
     
  9. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,294
    28
    Nov 15, 2009
    which 2 nobshanks voted Burley?
     
  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,229
    257
    Oct 22, 2009
    Somebody thinks Jones lack of top notch experience at mw would play in Burley´s hands in that one?
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,011
    48,108
    Mar 21, 2007
    Somebody wants to read up on what happened when a teenage Charles took on Burley then.
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,229
    257
    Oct 22, 2009
    Someone didn´t quite understand my question.
     
  13. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,294
    28
    Nov 15, 2009
    Christ bodhi, you can only stretch that one so far. Thats what you always say no matter who the opponent. Jones did enough at MW and considering his career post-MW it is right there infront of you, that Jons Jr was an absolute force of nature at MW and he did school one of the very best MW's of all time. You can't just reset the person, you're being very robotic and closed minded about this and we know you're doing it perposely
     
  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,229
    257
    Oct 22, 2009
    Oh my, Pachilles, my friend. I didn´t even vote yet. I asked a question and you are already butthurt? :shock:

    Yes, I think experience is a major factor in a fight. And I take an experienced, proven fighter at a weight over a relative unexperienced, unproven nearly every time - with the exception when there is a style or big size advantage. You don´t agree with it? Not my problem.
    No, Hopkins was not one of the very best mws of all-time, and especially not the pre-prime one Jones faced. As much as I like him - and I´m a big fan look it up in yout Top10 favourite fighter thread - but the more I see of the other mws the farther down Hopkins slides in the rankings.
    No Jones did not enough there. How many ranked fighters did he beat there? Exactly. Not enough to rank him.
    Yes, he was a tremendous talent and certainly would trouble many greats. Still, he is relativly inexperienced and unproven against atgs. This makes it hard for me to pick him in those fights. Clear?
    Here, he probably should be the fav due to his speed, power and size advantage. But I still want to know if other people think his lack of experience would make it a problem. If you don´t like it. Ignore it.

    Anyway, you can call me all you want sweetheart. :smooch
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,011
    48,108
    Mar 21, 2007
    It's true, i'm afraid. You can't say Jones wouldn't beat anyone top based upon his inexperience when he looked so absolutely superb to the eye.

    In addition, size as a factor is likely even more important than experience.