Charley Burley vs Marcel Cerdan

I'd pick Burley.

 

Burley was more the refined boxer, economic cautious stylist, power (?), both big hitters with KO power. Cerdan too was economical as Box/Fighter and always pistons pumping.

I'd say this is more of a 50/50 fight... back and forth victories for the Welter come Middleweight greats.

 

Cerdan had excellent feet...his footwork often gave him the angle to swarm. But against Burley, this wouldn't work quite as good as usual, because of the way(s) Burley could move his upperbody and leverage his shots from the most unlikely angles.
I like Burley in this...

 

I'm never sure how to place Burley, the Moore bout tells a lot but he lost bouts to skilled fighters also like Charles. We know what Archie thought of him but I've not seen an article on what Ezzard thought as he dropped and had Charley in deep trouble in their bouts. The only film we have isn't fair to him showing only a balanced fighter who knew how to place his punches without much speed. Marcel we know more of, Charley seems abit of a ?.

 

Seeing Marcel Cerdan decision tough Georgie Abrams at MSG on a close bout and
remembering that Georgie Abrams fought Charley Burley to a draw, I think that a prime Cerdan against Burley would be a pick em affair...Don't judge Marcel Cerdan by his
loss to Jake LaMotta as Cerdan hurt his shoulder in the first round, being tossed to the
canvas...

 

Cerdan is underrated because of his loss to LaMotta and being very European, Burley proved he was a tough slick cookie, This is a very competitive match up

 

I agree. Cerdan is overlooked by most boxing experts but he was very talented in my opinion.

 

Cerdan is overrated because the only great fighter he fought anywhere near his prime (LaMotta, who the by the way was already past his prime also) beat him. He looks great fighting a bunch of C level european fighters that nobody ever heard of but the guy didnt even face the two best French MWs of his era. He certainly was never the best WW or MW in the world and he may not have even been the best French MW. I think Burley would kick his ass and make it look easy.

 

Good posting Burt! You and Bummy see this one neck to neck which seems about right. Wish we could have seen it.

 

you are so off the mark klompton with respect to your feelings regarding Non American fighters. yes the American pool generally speaking was of better class.

but to disregard the best of 'other' nations as not as good or better even than their American contemporaries is not only in accurate but it is down right wrong.

the Very TOP fighters from ANYWHERE were just as good as the American pool and some better. Cerdan is one of them.

you are one of a few who can't bring yourself, or won't bring yourself to except that Cerdan's injury prevent an honest fight with laMotta and that a return favoured Cerdan as MOST people believe.

man the way some of you guys get lost in your opinions you want us to believe there's about 10 different classes of top fighters. WRONG.

the level difference at the VERY TOP was little or nothing at all, and again MOST people recognize that with Cerdan. Old Nat did as early as 1939.

I too love JJW, Charles and my man Marshall but to think they couldn't be matched, beaten or were miles ahead of their Global peers would be just plain foolish.

 

I'd pick Burley but I'm surprised you see it as a mis-match.

 

Cerdan was world class imo but you would have to give examples of other Europeans who at the time were to prove your point,and I think you would be struggling for the most part.