Charley Burley vs Rocky Graziano

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Graziano is one of the most overrated middleweights of all time, to say different reveals a lack of boxing knowledge
     
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  2. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Graziano beat one, ONE, legitimate top ten middleweight contender. He managed to go life and death several times with welterweights (some of them not that good). Burley would kick his ass in every sense of the word. In no way shape or form was Graziano anywhere near a top 20 all time middleweight. No guy who beats ONE top ten middleweight (who was rapidly fading and himself in no hurry to fight a legit threat) qualifies as anywhere near the top of boxings deepest division.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    How does it feel to be so in the wrong? I'm curious.
     
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  4. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    And Sugar Shane rears its ugly head once again...
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Even if you believe Zale was top 25 (which is highly debateable) he only accomplished that task in one out of three fights against a faded 34 year old version of Zale. The version of Zale that knocked out Graziano in 2 of 3 fights was nowhere near a top 20 or 25 all time middleweight.
     
  6. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It should be noted that given that this would be the biggest fight of his career, I think Burley would make a more concerted effort to close the show if given a chance. So, I'd pick him by stoppage.
     
  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    As someone who's never been wrong, I've often wondered about this as well.

    I've always imagined it felt something like indigestion.
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Blessed be he who knowns it.
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Oh, I've been wrong plenty of times but I have never been SO wrong in a single instance.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    English isn't my first language but is it your fourth?
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Your grammar is as fine tuned as your boxing knowledge. Still, please carry on. God needs all of his creations to express themselves...
     
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  12. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, you're right. I agree. Maybe a million-to-one goes too far.
     
  13. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Graziano lost the Zale trilogy and his sole win was a controversial stoppage that he might have lost had the bout not been stopped. Zale was also probably past his best at this stage.
     
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  14. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    He is great. Like Yoda without all that pain in the ace wisdom and insight!
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think there is any "probably" about it,the fact that Zale was past his best was what made their fights competitive.