Charlo vs Martinez who would of won

Who has Pavlik beaten of note.. what longtime champion.. Jermain Taylor fought and struggled with three 154 lb fighters before Pavlik and had no chin afterward.. So who did great fighters did Pavlik beat.. was it Rubio or was it Lockett.. Pavlik was good in his era but against faster fighters he struggled he was a strong plodder nothing special..

 

I never said Pavlik beat great fighters but his resume craps all over Charlo's as does that of Taylor.

Taylor's run of Hopkins x 2, Wright, Ouma and Spinks is vastly superior to anything Charlo has done.

At this moment in time Charlo is hype.

 

Prime Pavlik was great! But i think Charlo its way better than Taylor in every aspect ! Still its a mythical bout so opinions are like....

 

You’re giving Taylor credit for Wright , Ouma, and Spinks at 160.. Each fighter were career 154 lb fighters.. Trout and K9 resumes are better than Ouma and Spinks(who K9 best twice)..

 

So who has Charlo beaten at either 154 or 160 to warrant the hype he's getting?

 

That’s what I’m saying it’s hypothetical but Charlo is much better than Taylor.. I hate comparing eras because it’s difficult.. As good as Pavlik was the MWs today are much faster, bigger, and stronger than Lockett Rubio Miranda etc.. Pavlik and Sergio would struggle with GGG BJS Andrade Charlo

 

Now we’re having a real conversation.. Be has decent scalps at 154 but you knew he was not going to be there long.. he’s at his peak weight and although he has thesillks to be the best 160he still has to prove it.. But who’s gonna give him the shot.. BJS already said he’s not a big enough name GGG will drop the WBC because he’s not a big enough name.. Jacobs will wait until all other options has been exhausted before he give him a shot.. so here we are at a stand still.. all the guys at 160 are gonna fight around each other because they want the money fights

 

He had to earn his shot at a champion at 160.

He was already talking out loud about Jacobs until confronted then clamed up.

His opposition at 160 has been abysmal to say the least but iirc he is now a mandatory contender so will soon be fighting one of the top guys and he can prove his metal.

Atm I have

GGG
Jacobs
Derevyanchenko
BJS

All beating him.

 

Pavlik weight 169 and Hopkins 170 not 175

 

Are you being serious?

First of all you lil Charlo ball licker, what evidence is there that Charlo is stronger than Pavlik? Kelly was a HUGE middleweight... the biggest middleweight of the last 20 years.

Charlo is still a guy who started at 154. He's a naturally smaller man than Pavlik.

Kelly's frame currently carries 230, and he doesn't even look sloppy at that weight. That lets you know the MF is a BIG guy, and physically, he was strong as an oxe.

Evidence of his strength? Edison Miranda was a very strong fighter, and Pavlik threw him around like a child.

Get off Charlo's dick.

One guy destroyed Edison Miranda, and Jermain Taylor, while the other has beaten.... Julian Williams?

Who's to say that Charlo even beats Taylor? Cause at the present moment, I'd favor Taylor in that matchup.

You honestly sound like you JUST started following the sport.

 

BTW JaytShortBus, Pavlik actually wasn't a plodder at all. You sound like the ONLY two Pavlik fights you saw were the Hopkins and Martinez fights.

Against stationary targets, Pavlik kept a very high workrate and had excellent stamina go with his accuracy and power.

Learn more about this sport, then come back.

 

I don't know who would of won but I know who would HAVE won and it wouldn't have been Charlo