Charlo vs Martinez who would of won

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  1. Serge

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  2. Xplosive

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    This. Exactly this.
     
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  3. gdm

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    Martinez KO
     
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  4. gdm

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    Charlos are bums , overrated bums
     
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  5. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol.. All this is hypothetical and I hate fantasy matchups because people get butt hurt easily.. I believe Sergio was the best MW of his time with Pavlik behind him whom I was a fan of but is aware of his limitations.. Sergio was my favorite fighter but he made things difficult with his fighting style..
    I believe Charlo has all the skills to be the best MW but obviously has to prove it in the ring which he’s GGG/Canelo WBC mandatory so we will see how willing he his to defend against him being as he had no problem defending against Wade or Monroe or Adama..
     
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  6. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    outside of GGG, Pavlik beats them all, and prime Pavlik beats this GGG too in a war. Pavlik when right and no demons was a monster. Martinez is a little undersized, but he was special, very special.
     
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  7. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Idk if Pavlik can beat GGG to me in
    The last 40 yrs top MWs
    Hagler
    Hopkins
    GGG
    Nunn
    Sergio
    Pavlik..

    RJJ was definitely historically great but I’m basing it off MW only
     
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  8. Gil Gonzalez

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    I see nothing in Charlo that leads me to believe he beats Martinez.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Charlo has all the skills against come forward plodders that walk into his power hand repeatedly, put Jermallo in with anyone with even a hint of skill and he gets befuddled, I hate to break it to you but most of the guys at Middleweight GGG, Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs.... don't exactly play into his wheelhouse. And sadly for Jermall, Sergio and yes Pavlik, had more than a degree of skill. Jermall's exemplary skillset you speak of can be based on one performance, and that was against J-Rock, who let's be honest, fought like a reckless maniac who believed himself to have an iron chin, Trout knowing he didn't payed it safe, and made Charlo look borderline incompetent.
     
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  10. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Prime GGG beats Pavlik at his best imo, very late tko or points. GGG now, no, he has to be prime to beat prime Pavlik..I like the list and GGG is in thee top h2h middleweight discussion of all time
     
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  11. KiwiMan

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    I like Charlo but as of right now he hasn't done anything to deserve to be favoured over Martinez.
     
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  12. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be honest If GGG defeat Canelo and anyone of the current top MWs I’ll move him above Hopkins at MW all time.. the gap between the two is not that wide imo..
    what yrs do think is GGG prime.?
     
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  13. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’ll give you that.. Only was to get a definitive answer on where any of these guys at MW(except GGG who really has nothing to prove) is if the fight each other.. (Jacobs, BJS, Andrade, Charlo, Chenko, and soon Hurd). I think Charlo can be the best out of the bunch but he gotta prove it..
     
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  14. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like the Charlo bros, but need to see Jermall beat some elite MEd before I can entertain the thought of him against Pavlik or Martinez or GGG. I'm all but positive he will never surpass Hagler, BHop, or RJJ at MW h2h.
     
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  15. The Ogdoad

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    Charlo takes it. People forget Martinez was almost stopped by the primitively skilled Chavez Jr. Jermall has quite a bit more talent, power, and handspeed, than Chavez Jr. He would also probably be just as big in the ring as Chavez Jr. on fight night.
     
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