Chat GPT predicts Joe Louis vs. Deontay Wilder

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  1. reznick

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    From Chat GPT-4:

    In a hypothetical matchup between Joe Louis and Deontay Wilder, we're again comparing fighters from vastly different eras, with their own unique strengths and fighting styles. Wilder, known for his incredible knockout power, particularly with his right hand, stands at 6'7" and has competed at weights around 212 to 231 pounds. Joe Louis, standing around 6'2" and fighting at approximately 200 pounds during his prime, was known for his precision, power, and excellent technique.

    Here's a breakdown of the key factors that might influence the outcome of this speculative fight:

    1. Power and Knockout Ability: Wilder has one of the highest knockout ratios in heavyweight history, having relied heavily on his power to win fights, often coming from behind on the scorecards. Louis, while also a powerful puncher, combined his power with precision and was a more rounded boxer.

    2. Technique and Boxing Skills: Joe Louis had superior technical skills compared to Wilder. Louis's ability to set up his punches, his footwork, and his combination punching were all top-notch. Wilder, while devastatingly powerful, has been critiqued for lacking technical refinement in comparison.

    3. Defense and Durability: Louis had a solid defense and was very durable, with the ability to take and recover from punches. Wilder has shown vulnerability when opponents can get past his reach and power, as seen in his fights with Tyson Fury.

    4. Physical Attributes: Wilder's height and reach advantage would be significant, as it has been against most of his opponents. This advantage allows him to fight effectively at a distance where his power is most dangerous.
    Given these considerations, if forced to pick a winner, the edge might lean towards Joe Louis for several reasons:

    • Technical Skill and Strategy: Louis's superior boxing technique, including his ability to deliver powerful combinations with accuracy, could allow him to navigate Wilder's reach and power.
    • Adaptability: Louis fought and defeated a wide range of opponents, showcasing his ability to adapt his strategy as needed. His experience against hard-hitters would be invaluable.
    • Power with Precision: While Wilder's one-punch knockout ability is unparalleled, Louis's combination of power and precision, particularly with his ability to set up his shots, might allow him to accumulate damage more effectively over the course of the fight.
    However, Wilder's one-punch knockout power means he would always have a "puncher's chance," and it would only take one well-placed shot to end the fight. This speculative analysis leans towards Joe Louis for his all-around skill set, but the unpredictability of heavyweight boxing, especially with a fighter like Wilder, means any outcome would be possible.
     
  2. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    In my opinion there are four realistic possible outcomes of prime Joe Louis vs. prime Deontay Wilder. Joe Louis wins by decision. Joe Louis wins by knockout. Deontay Wilder wins by knockout. I do not see much chance of Deontay winning a decision or of the fight ending in a draw. So I see two ways for Joe Louis to win and only one way for Deontay Wilder to win. Then I see a difference in experience and quality of opposition, favoring Joe Louis. I also give Joe the stylistic advantage. And I believe Joe Louis, not only faced better competition overall, he also had better wins!

    With all things considered, I will go with Joe Louis by knockout win.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    eyyy it's Reznick! Any new videos lately?
     
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  4. BCS8

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    I've always felt Louis' lack of size compared to modern superheavies bites him in the ass a bit. However, his advantages are explosiveness and especially accuracy. Louis I think would get off first and better than Wilder. Wilder's defence isn't exactly the stuff of legends and if Joe detonates early and well, that could be it. Wilder usually takes a while to get dialled in and Louis could go fast if he needed to.
     
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  5. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Accurate. I see Louis giving Wilder an Abe Simon level beatdown, but Wilder always has that puncher's chance.
     
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  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    It would be enough for Louis to watch a few of Wilder's fights (if Louis knew who he was fighting), and Louis would win.
    The danger is greater (potential; theoretical danger) than Max Baer, but still Louis wins.
     
  7. Freddy Benson.

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    Not to completely ignore what you posted - but any new videos to come?
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Louis by KO early
     
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  9. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Leaving aside the outside chance of one of Wilder’s windmill haymakers landing on Louis’s chin and rendering him unconscious, I’d put money on Joe ripping Wilder apart in about 3 rounds.
     
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  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unlike some of the other old fighters who didn't have the opportunity, Louis proved himself against superheavies.

    Buddy Baer was 6'7", 240.
    Abe Simon was 6'4", 250.
    Primo Carnera was 6'6", 270.

    Louis demolished all three. Max Baer too, for good measure.

    Given his proven record of giant slaying, my money is on Louis demolishing Wilder.
     
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  11. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    Louis was susceptible to the right and it is Wilders best punch perhaps only really dangerous punch

    As long as Louis can avoid it, easily done if he forces Wilder onto the back foot it should be an easy nights work.

    Would be a similar beat down to Wilder vs Fury 2