Chavez DUCKS Andy Lee, targeting Darren Barker

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Uncle Oden, Nov 30, 2011.


  1. mr fists

    mr fists Active Member Full Member

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    I see it going like the zbik fight, barker out boxes him for the majority of the fight, but lacking the power, workrate and huge technical advantage to really impose himself. Then chavez rallies late to make it reasonably close and gets the hometown decision. Although I have a feeling Chavez may be better than most people think and thst he may not give the less active barker many opportunities, push him round with his size and then get the late stoppage as barker fades. Either way he's not going to lose officially and it will be less exciting than a fight against lee.
     
  2. mr fists

    mr fists Active Member Full Member

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    I see it going like the zbik fight, barker out boxes him for the majority of the fight, but lacking the power, workrate and huge technical advantage to really impose himself. Then chavez rallies late to make it reasonably close and gets the hometown decision. Although I have a feeling Chavez may be better than most people think and thst he may not give the less active barker many opportunities, push him round with his size and then get the late stoppage as barker fades. Either way he's not going to lose officially and it will be less exciting than a fight against lee.
     
  3. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    Barker has no business getting this shot. He can be competitive, but that's not the complete point here. A guy of his pedigree shouldn't be getting a title shot, by the same organization for **** sake, in his very next fight after getting knocked out. It doesn't matter who it was against. It's absurd. As stated, Rubio is the most deserving one, but ya never hear a peep about him. And Lee hasn't lost in years and has looking much improved. And these assholes from WBC better get Quillin in their rankings next time.

    The best they can come up with is because he's a southpaw :roll: Naw, wouldn't do any good to face a southpaw, there's none to face in the division, right?
     
  4. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Being realistic Lee is really little more entitled to a shot then Barker. And there really isnt much between them in terms of talent.
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on whether you consider Chavez Jr to be champion at the weight. I don't. In my mind, his "world title" doesn't mean very much, given that Martinez is the lineal champion at 160lbs. Instead, I view him as being just another contender for Maravilla's championship.

    So...The question becomes, did Barker's better than impressive performance warrant a chance for him to face a contender the next time out? I think it did, and a lot of people appear to agree.

    As for Lee?

    He'll probably get a chance at some point...And it wouldn't hurt his chance to step up his level of competition and face a contender as well in the interim.
     
  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Yes, if he isnt willing to behave like a champ then vacate.
     
  7. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree. Chavez's title, apart from what ever marketing value it gives him, isn't worth all that much. Martinez is the champ and Chavez's title doesn't change that at all. Titles use to make you one of the top 4-5 contenders but now, since there are so many titles per weight class, a title doesn't neccasarily make you a top 10 contender let alone 5.

    Even if you give some weight to Chavez's title Barker is still a reasonable opponent. He might not be the best option but he's not bad and should make for a fun fight as well.
     
  8. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    :deal:deal:deal
     
  9. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hate when people say "um" online. It's stupid.

    Anyways, regardless of his pre-belt popularity, he is robbing a boxer of popularity by having a belt he doesn't deserve. I'd like the winner of Sergio and Chavez to have the belt. As long as they deserve to have the belt, I don't care who it is.
     
  10. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He should fight some bum and make it look difficult... :hey
     
  11. Fan88

    Fan88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Barker will be too much for him actually.
     
  12. paddymickey

    paddymickey Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Di Bella could get Lee to fight Rubio as a triple header it would be a tough fight but very good for growing Lee's fan base in the US. so the MSG night could be
    Main card - Martinez V Macklin with Lee VRubio and JCCJR v Barker as undercards! would be awesome
     
  13. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :deal People must have forgot that rubio KO'd dangerous undefeated
    lemieux to EARN his mandatory status, plus rubio would be the best
    fighter Jr has faced to date. No reason for the WBC to allow Jr to keep
    the belt. He's had his gimme fight, now it's time to defend his gifted strap
    that zbik gave him ina fixed fight for a big payday.

    Chavez Jr=Biggest Fraud in boxing
     
  14. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    a mexican with common sense
     
  15. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This card would never happen. Too many promoters and too much money behind Martinez and Chavez for them to ever fight on the same card unless they're facing each other.