Chavez Had The Guts To Fight A Big LHW And Lost....TIME TO MAN UP WARD-Your Turn

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  1. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beterbiev won't fight him if Al has anything to say about it.

    Fonfara will just be seen as a Stevenson victim, although it is still a decent opponent.

    The other fighters don't excite me at all.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're avoiding the question attaboi....I picked him and he lost ...so what..that's not my point, he had the guts to jump up that high and no that's not his normal weight division, SMW is. But Ward will duck anything that he deems even a slight risk. Even going as far as draining Dawson down to a skeleton. Ward should move up or retire.
     
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  3. Capt

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    I won the ban bet, I just see Beterbiev(Haymon) and Fonfara(nothing special) as really the only good options.

    The rest don't do anything for me.
     
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  4. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a complete troll thread, retire??? Get lawst CST.

    Chavez Jr has never even fought at 168.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The second Vera match was at 168.:deal
    From Boxrec: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr 167½ lbs beat Brian Vera 167½ lbs by UD in round 12 of 12
     
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  6. ellerbe

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    Are you re****ed? When did I say Stevenson/Bika was on shotime. I said free tv has far more viewers than HBO, but HBO has far more viewers than shotime. So if you're going to credit Kovalev for having more views on HBO compared to Adonis Stevenson; you can compare free tv to HBO since it was also on daytime, and his opponent was not a draw. Reading comprehension skills aren't your strong point I see.
     
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  7. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I wouldn't call what Jr did moving up. 160 was never his natural weight to begin with, so I don't know what you're giving him credit for. The guy couldn't make 168 for goodness sake.

    As for Dawson. Ward never drained Dawson. I know damn well I wasn't the only person that watched Dawson call out Ward and said he will have no trouble making 168 on HBO.

    General consensus on this forum was that the fight was too close to call. Since Ward made fight look so easy, the narrative has now turned into Ward draining poor Chad Dawson.
     
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  8. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, if Dawson was willing to fight Ward at 168, why blame Ward for draining him. Dawson caused that on himself.
     
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  9. Hercegovac

    Hercegovac Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you weren't talking about Adonis-Bika on showtime, then why did you phrase the sentence like that. It's pretty clear your trying to say that it was on showtime, and that he had the better ratings than kovalev
     
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  10. CST80

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    At this point other than Froch there is absolutely no reason monetarily or otherwise for Ward to stay at SMW, he's needs to move up its not that much weight and if he's such a masterful boxer, then I see no reason why he'd be too scared to fight Kovalev or Beterbiev he'll school them with ease right? So why doesn't he have the ***** to just go ahead and do it.
     
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  11. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good

    What was your score?

    You doing a ban bet for Floyd-PAC and if so who do you got?

    Edit: Meh I want to see those fights especially the Beterbiev and Chilemba fights.
     
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  12. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Against Vera who was a average MW. The only reason that fight took place at 168 was because Chavez couldn't even make 160.
     
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  13. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Besides Kovalev who else is there for Ward to fight at 175?
     
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  14. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Still Jr couldn't make 168.
     
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  15. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are plenty of fights he could fight at SMW.
    I mean he could and may fight Kovalev regardless of that fact after his tuneups. But I don't see that fight happening until next year at the earliest. Beterbiev can't and won't happen as long as Ward is with Roc Mation and Beterbiev is with Haymon. Kovalev and Stevenson should fight Beterbiev.
     
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