Chavez Jr. proves Manny should take the test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only round I saw Chavez take it easy was the 12th. The guy was on for pretty much the whole fight. Credit Ariza and Roach for that

 

you sir have wasted my ****ing time with this thread.

 

Well, we didn't have any proof on all those baseball players for years. But we all could pretty much tell it was obvious they were juicing.

 

There was always proof...it's just those who did say something were black balled and never were given any platform or voice to make it official. THERE WERE PLENTY OF HARD EVIDENCE out there from the Players and those within the MLB who could have blown this thing wide open. With Manny there is NO evidence...just rumors that convientely came from his potential "opponent" in Floyd.

 

Seriously, only 5 weeks with Roach and Ariza produced that? I can't help an wonder if something is up. It's just the damn feeling I have about it all. Combine that with all the posturing regarding the blood tests, and it adds up to something odd in my mind. Maybe it is because so many athletes have been caught in other sports. I just think people are highly naive to think there is nothing going on in boxing. Especially at Wildcard.

 

How do you know there is NO evidence? Just cause Ariza says he's the only one that knows what Pac takes?

 

That's true. But, when u got a guy hitting 60, 70 homers, then, a guy who throw punches for 12 rounds non-stop, hard to say he is juicing, when, he finally has got the right team behind him to push him.

 

Yea....it's amazing what natrual talent, ability and a pedigree can do for a fighter. It's just funny that ONLY the successful fighters that Roach has gets accused on being on someting. Vanes while successful himself hasn't blown up with popularity that guys like Manny, Kahn and now Chavez Jr have....and conviently the whole PED, Roids, HGH or A side of Meff issue gets brought to the surface.

It's funny that the whole drug issue is being associated with ONE gym based on nothing else but RUMORS and accusations that have no foudation whatsoever. If Drugs are a problem in boxing that means BOXING WIDE not just at the Wild Card gym...that includes Floyd Jr's Gym as well.

 

and those suspicions based solely on their performance and physical attributes... People were right. When a 20 homerun guy hits 40 all of a sudden he said it was from better training and diet.. Come to find out, it was all bull****. No way can boxers stoop that low... Gumps

 

It's all natural in a ******* World.

:rofl

 

Let's put it this way....there is MORE evidence to support PAC being CLEAN than there are with regards to PAC being dirty.:yep How many conditioning coaches or certified chefs who manage an athletes in-take make it a point to put out there everything that they use to help their clients training? What's Floyd eating or what kind of supplements is Floyd taking?

 

Why the **** hasn't Ariza been this good all along? Why did it start when Pacquiao moved up from 130?

 

Floyd didn't move up 3 divisions (that would be 168) @ age 29 and start knocking peeps out.

:rasta

 

"PEOPLE" were right! As a whole EVERYONE knew Baseball players were on juice just like folks know some boxers are on something. The issue is singling out ONE person withOUT any evidence and trying to pass it off as fact. When they came out with the MLB roid scandal the eveidence was there...proof wasn't a mystery. Not like the case with Manny and Floyd's accusations.

 

Floyd dominated as he moved up...he's stayed fit, cut and has had incredible stamina with his preparations in camp. Floyd hasn't ever really been considered a heavy hitter. Manny at the age of 16 with his speed and explosivness was knocking out grown men and he's continued to do so. He's not a heavy hitter but he's explosive and fast. Couple that with a relentless style and you see the majority of his fights that end early are STOPPAGES...Not one shot KO's.:smoke