Chavez Jr. proves Manny should take the test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I didn't say it was a fact. It's just real suspicious to me.
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ariza has been this good but he started out in other sports where his clientel was limited. He got lucky to work with Roach and Roach liked what he brought to the table for his fighters so he eventually let him work with Manny.
     
  3. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Honestly I am not a fan of Jr, I think its hype to be honest, but he is a prospect, and a son of a legand.
    What I can say, is that at Wildcard you train your mother ****ing ass off, that is not a gym where they just take it easy on you, but his not running out of Gas doesnt have to be attributed to just training harder, there are other things you can learn that can also help you maintain your stamina.
    Such as
    Learning how to relax when your in there.
    also learning how to place your shots.
    also learning how to pace yourself for the full 12..
    it doesnt have to just be attributed to hard training, and for you to automaticly assume he is roiding up.... Shame on you:nono, Fighters are allowed to improve and they often do.
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When you got nothing, just make **** up! It works great at ESB?
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course its alright to be suspicious. I'm not so suspicious of Manny but I am of other fighters....Particularly the HW's. Where Roids and PEDs would be far more beneficial than for the lower weight classes.
     
  6. Knives7

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    Are you saying that Pacquiao isn't any good at 130 and below? Pacquiao has always been a beast when he was in the lower weight class. Most of his fights never last 6 rounds. He stopped most of his opponents. Also, when Pacquiao was in the lower weight class he
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    himself to make weight. He stopped draining himself.

    Let me ask you this, if a boxer stops draining himself does him become stronger or weaker?
     
  7. Boxing Fanatic

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    I think he(Pac) has been match well. Whatever Ariza is doing, helps that much more. When Bernard beat Pavlik, nobody said anything about PEDS. He was just conditioned well and trained well, I guess.
     
  8. Toopretty

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    Ariza is the dirtiest dude I have ever seen or heard speak. Arum is the dirtiest promoter in the sport of boxing and many of his cash cows from the past are the most suspect. Margarito was caught cheating and Arum defended his innocence despite everyone in the locker room witnessing cheating. Pac is a clown and so is Roach. Combine all these mofos and you got cheating mother****ers.
     
  9. Boxing Fanatic

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    Floyd and co aren't actually model citizens. Their drug history is deep. What makes u think they aren't juicing?
     
  10. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    :lol: Kind of like top rank and Bob Arum has a history of bribing boxing officials and allegedly fixing fights. Dude was under investigation by the FBI. He got away clean. But the suspicion was there or he would not be investigated. Freddie Roach has trained steroid using fighters. I cant say anything involving steroids have been outed by anyone in the Mayweather camp. Ariza is a "conditioning" coach that gives his fighters a special mix of things and lists some bull**** you can buy at the vitamin shoppe as his enhancers(everybody knows none of that **** works). You keep on with the eyes wide shut ****. I have reasonable doubt and I will speak on it unlike other scurred mofos.
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    Come on, dude. USADA didn't test 18 days before his fight with Mosley. Dont u think that is suspicious?
     
  12. blastmaster122

    blastmaster122 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ariza's a relative newcomer to the Wild Card. ****** Fortune was the one handling conditioning and nutrition previously.
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Exactly.... But dont expect him to understand or even know this, obviously he is new to following the sport.
     
  14. Relentless

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    ariza has been training football teams and other athletes such as tennis players

    he trained chico corralles for a while and he was morales' conditioning coach for a few fights including the ones where he fought pac.

    now run along and find another black poster to ass lick you snow white prison *****.
     
  15. Relentless

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    notice the dudes talking about the peds and roids are the most uneducated of them all (toopurddy)

    bernard hopkins went from 9 punches per round vs tarver to throwing almost a hundred against winky.

    paul williams moves up to 160 and keeps his workrate and then moves down to 147 and still has it

    ali-frazier broke the record for the most punches thrown in a heavyweight fight in MANILLA under the hot scorching sun, were they on peds?