joe was able to stop manfredo two rounds earlier than chavez jr and chavez jr is the son of one of the greatest fighters ever. his dad beat camacho, haugen and taylor. when you factor in that manfredo finished in second place on the contender, this is all the more impressive. this is absolute proof of the greatness of joe! (i just figured i'd get all the ridiculous bull**** started)
Chavez is improving a lot, but he will never be as good as Calzaghe!!! Chavez had better not fight Martinez, neither should Void!