Does every boxer in the world have an effective jab? Seen as it's so basic. If you didn't see what Martinez was doing with his own jab, then there is no point even debating with you. "Give me proof". That's something a 12 year old would respond with. :-(
Chavez is a spoiled brat?!? I could count on one hand the number of fighters in the sport who could take a sustained beating like that for 11 rounds and come back to almost KTFO his man. JR surely has his limitations but there is no ground for attacking his heart
Most of them do. But for some reason Roach's fighters don't seem to have it. Pac has the shittiest looking jab I've ever seen(thank God for the power left hand). Amir had a pretty good jab in his early years. Dissappeared when he hooked up with Roach. Seen most of Chavez fights. Barely see jabs. I saw what he did. He used it. Which is why he won. You sounded so sure that Freddie was telling him that in the corner. I want evidence, is that a crime?
Most of them do not. Martinez in fact has a very good jab, this limited any use of Chavez's jab, even though Chavez himself wasn't willing to use it. The sole reason for Pacquiao's jab is to set up his straight left, whether it be a single jab, or a double jab. It's not like a Cotto jab (powerful) or a Wlad jab (keep his opponents at arms length)...it's a range finder jab. Khan has displayed a very good jab in about 2 bouts, one of them being against Malignaggi, and I forget the other bout. He was with Roach for both bouts. Let's take a look at a pattern. Pacquiao listens to Roach and dominates for years. Khan doesn't listen to Roach, gets beaten by boxers he's expected to beat. Chavez doesn't listen to Roach, gets beaten...well, he wasn't expected to beat Martinez anyway. (Neither are on Pacquiao's level, and never will be). I'll repeat, Chavez was not good enough to jab with Martinez, even if he did try to throw the jab.
just like everyone blaming scully for dawson come on it's not the trainers fault when a fighter loses by a wide margin. next it'll be mayweather if he loses they'll say he should had left roger
This. Daddy bought the best trainer for his son. Its not Roach's fault Jr. is a spoiled rich kid that doesnt take the sport seriously.
All jabs are range finders. Thats one of the main points of it. I did say he had a pretty good jab in his early years. He stopped using it after the Maidana fight. Debatable, he's had some freindly matchmaking over the years. Expected to beat? Come on, I think your short changing the talents of Lamont and Danny. Yeah Khan was hyped hard by the media. But I didn't buy it. I knew his fights with both men were not gonna be easy. And I repeat, I disagree. I think Chavez is good enough. He showed his potential in this fight. Even though he lost by a wide margin. He needs to improve on his skills with a trainer. Being 26 he has time. I just don't think Roach is the man to do it.
Chavez just has no talent. 48 pro fights and can't throw any punch properly...gtfo slow jab, haymakers etc. He destroys his brain by draining himself over 20pounds. He's lucky his brain ain't that good anyway.
just like everyone blaming scully for dawson come on it's not the trainers fault when a fighter loses by a wide margin. next it'll be mayweather if he loses they'll say he should had left roger
Jr doesn't take boxing serious. He is out of shape. Doesn't show up to training. It doesn't matter who they have in his corner. He doesn't listen. He is a spoiled kid who got a to of breaks cause of his name. Last night he got his ass whooped because of himself.
I didn't blame Scully. I blamed Dawson for agreeing to the weight. And Mayweather unlike Chavez is a complete fighter. So I have no clue what you could blame Roger for.