Chavez Sr vs Meldrick Taylor

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :deal
    I couldn't agree more.
     
  2. Politik Ditto

    Politik Ditto Member Full Member

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    the bottomline is that taylor could not have continued fighting. period. good stoppage.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He could have continued but the ref didn't allow him to do so he beat the count and there was less than 5 seconds in the round. Bull**** stoppage for a guy who was wining the fight on all the cards.
     
  4. Politik Ditto

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    you telling me if there was 30 seconds left in that fight taylor would've survived?....come on man. there is NO way taylor could've continued fighting. it might've been a good thing there wasn't 15 seconds left instead of 2, cause taylor could've very well lost his life.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    He took a bad beating, but there's no way to know or tell how close he was to death, or what another punch would've done.

    It's not like that fight alone turned him into the brain-damaged person you see today. It was repeated blows over the years, in sparring and in real fights.
     
  6. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Exactly, 10 seconds or less! And the red light was right in front of Steele, plus the hit on the canvas was also heard during the count. What could Chavez possibly do to him, when he beat the count with 3-4 sec left?

    I repeat: Wasn't Meldrick bruised, battered, shaken and in serious danger in round 10? Round 11? Start and middle of round 12? So the "kill" was going to come at the last second of the fight?

    Taylor fought his heart out and he made Chavez look like a fool at times. Taylor deserved to hold the belt that night, not to be robbed with seconds left, taking all that beating for nothing.
     
  7. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree and i've always thought if the situation was reversed chavez fans would have been up in arms as well over the decision to stop it. If you watch the tape steele says you ok? you OK then instantly stops he doesnt even give taylor a chance to respond to the questioning and if he would have done his job properly he would have made sure chavez was in his neutral corner before the fight resumed and this would have probably eaten up the rest of the time. No punches would even have been able to land in that time frame if steele had done things properly
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I repete The light is a light and not a clock. You can't asume information.
     
  9. kickbxn5

    kickbxn5 Active Member Full Member

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    As you can see, that fight destroyed Meldrick Taylor. Richard Steele, a good friend of mine, did the right thing by stopping it.
     
  10. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Let me put it this way: If i was the ref, i wound't have stopped it with less than 10 seconds left. I'm not saying Steele made a bad decision, cause he made it to protect Taylor. I just felt very sorry for the kid, taking all that punishment for nothing.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    But there wasn't 30 seconds left there was less than five. No real damage can be inflicted in that short period especially in the last round. When you have to come all the way across the ring. As soon as you get there the fight would be over.
     
  12. lucasehr

    lucasehr Active Member Full Member

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    Any reasonable person watching the fight could see that Taylor was in no condition to continue fighting. If that happens prior to the round expiring the referee has to stop the fight. I used to feel opposite about this fight but that's the simple fact. Chavez was given 36 minutes to inflict enough damage on Taylor that he couldn't continue, he did that. How is it fair to Chavez then if the fight isn't stopped?
     
  13. Pimp C

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    Taylor was winning on all cards and outboxed Chavez in what was to be a sure victory but had the fight stopped with less than 5 seconds left in which he beat the count. How fair is it to Taylor that he wasn't allowed to continue and have his moment?
     
  14. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duva is responsible for this loss telling Meldrick to fight, that he needed to win the 12th round," we need this round". Then getting in the ring and waving his arms distracting Taylor at the crucial moment Steele asks the quetion "are you alright" .

    A part of me in all honesty wonders if Steele was in any way influenced by Don king? I wonder about that. That victory in effect stamped the Chavez legend and was his moment of greatness. The rest of what happened to Meldrick I blame on management. In those days of the best fought the top challengers unlike todays safety first approach of greatest reward for the least amount of risk. In these times Meldrick would be top 5 P4P and matched against creampuffs and older guys with names.
     
  15. lucasehr

    lucasehr Active Member Full Member

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    He beat the count, but was clearly unable to continue fighting. The cards, the time (as long as there still is time) are irrelevant. He was physically unfit to continue while time remained during the bout. It sucks for him, I feel bad, but those are the breaks.