Chavez-Taylor II Immed. Rematch?

Taylor was ruined after the damage he took...
Chavez AND Taylor would have known deep inside who had who beat...

If anything, JCC would have came in like a man possessed believing in his heart that all he has to do is do what he did in the 1st fight except up gears a bit & dont let up & in the back (or front) of Meldrick`s mind would be `what if he gets to me SOONER than last time ?`

Chavez TKO9 Taylor

Anything outside of a JCC KO win is wishfull thinking IMO.

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I agree

 

But some legendary fighters rise to the challenge & Chavez seems that type.

 

He was past it by then physically & lost a lot of his drive because the 100-0 was out the window, he craved that record badly. He should have just retired then.

Chavez was in his prime yrs around 1990, no chance he folds mentally in the scenario we are discussing.

 

No the thread is saying if he won the fight. The loss and how it occured is what deteriorated Taylor so much over the next few years. Mentally he was never the same. I dont think it was the physical beating he took as much as the mental effect.

 

his 100-0 record would have went aswell if he lost to taylor so he could lose his drive then

 

1st things first...Meldrick IMHO was not finnished after the Chavez fight. This reputation seems to grow larger every year and I just don't see it! Meldrick was already planning on moving up in weight after this fight as he was finding it increasingly hard to make weight. After the Chavez fight he moved up a class beating a game Ramos and seeting himself up for a title fight with the unbeaten Aaron Davis. Meldrick put on a masterful display, which I still call his best performance ever. He would go onto defend his title 2 X's while still clalling out Chavez...In Chavez's defense he was not willing to move up a weight class, and Meldrick could not try and move back down...There was no big money fight looming on the horizon..unless meldrick who was never known for big punch ability, and even less every time he moved up...Unless he moved up a weight class and battled terry Norris. Meldrick used his speed in Rd 1 to give him a slight edge, but it was already clear by the end of the rd. that he could not hurt Terry, and terrry grew increasingly more confident. Terry would destroy meldrick for the remaining 3 rds..This to me ended Meldrick taylor as an elite fighter not Chavez!!!!


But anyway had Meldrick got the decision, what would happen. He had already planned to move up a weight class, and Chavez would not move up to face him. Meldrick finally looking to avenge this 4 and a half years later, not at his best (due to Norris and time) and dropped back down to 140 again!

Would Meldrick have stayed at LWW and rebattled Chavez..I don't think so?? Would chavez move up to WW to remove the blemish??? Again I am not so sure...Either way I would favor Chavez at LWW and taylor at WW depending on the weight limit.

 

An immediate rematch would have been suicide for Taylor. Depending how long it took place after the first fight of course. He sustained a serious beating down the stretch, combined with exhaustion due the effort he put in over the course of the fight. He fully expanded his energy tank with his movement and busy flurries during each round. Chavez was steadily chipping away like a sculpturer throughout the rounds he was being outboxed. He was losing the rounds clearly, but still doing sufficient enough damage in return for it to take it's toll.

 

good point Robbi taht he needed abit of time to recover because it would be very hard to come from a beating like that.

Thats why Chavez is so great in a way, the way he slowly almost unnoticably slowly chipped awy at Taylor until he eventually broke, great great stuff.

I watch alot of Chavez and things like that inspire me the way he wasnt the most gifted fighter but he worked hard and learnt the sport and his decication to a fight in his prime was unbelievable you could hit him with a sledge hammer for 10 rounds and hed still beat you in the 11th

 

He was very technically compact with his punches. His handspeed often gets overlooked. Not a speed demon by any means, but extremely underrated when it comes to handspeed.

 

he had decent speed but if you looked at him as an athlete nothing really stands out about him.

But as a fighter he had great technical skills and resiliance.

 

If I'm honest, he's not a fighter I'm particularly high on. I much prefer Duran when it comes to a similar style. Pure pressure fighters and knockout artists don't pull me in actually. I'm more prone to be attracted to boxers, all round fighters, and counter-punchers. Holmes, Marquez, Whitaker, Hopkins, Hearns, Toney, Locche, Arguello, Pep, Lewis, Hagler, Duran, Sanchez, Benitez, Barrera, Mayweather, etc.

 

bull****

 

Taylor looked alright in the Ramos rematch, I don't think he looked all too great. He looked better in the first Ramos fight.

Taylor wasn't ever quite the same after Chavez but still a top fighter.

This "Chavez alone ruined Taylor" is a myth, one of numerous "Legendary Night Myths", although it was around before that series, that doc just furthered it.

Taylor's weight problems, style, and the talent level at 147 are reasons why I feel that Taylor never would've had longevity at the top level, Chavez or not.

 

Whats bull****?