Chavez V Taylor I - Sheer heart & will were the keys in this fight

Can you talkt about something else than anything that has something to do with Norris or Leonard? That really gets a bit annoying.

 

Coincidentally I watched this old chestnut just the other day and I noted that when they gave the rules for the bout HBO stipulated that there was NO standing 8-count.
If that were the case then shouldn't Richard Steele have simply wiped Taylor's gloves and waved Chavez on in to complete the job?

I too thought HBO commentary were way wrong in their assessment of the fight and had it a lot closer with Chavez providing the real quality work.

 

Two different operators, one made of far sterner stuff.

Taylor was making it all happen, doing those 'donuts' Duva had him doing in the circle during training. The only problem was he was taught how to tackle Chavez, not turn him off.

 

The real difference was power.

Meldrick had none.

With equivalent power to Chavez or say a Randall, he probably wins.

 

I'm sure to you it's a lot more than just annoying.

Still...Terry Norris UD Ray Leonard


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lktj8QSdHak

Hector Camacho KO 5 Ray Leonard

 

Actually I don't know how it would have gone but I do know Randall would have given him the fight of his life. He just never seemed to tire in a fight and that is rare even for the best world class fighter. I also know that Chavez wouldn't have been able to hurt him

And Oscar, what can I say about him? I have nothing but admiration for the man. He was a gentleman in the ring, never ducked anyone, smart, good looking, charasmatic, and a pretty good fighter too. I don't see how anyone could possibly dislike him.

I'm glad he's where he is today.

 

Hand and footspeed....not every fighter that is fast, is fast of both hand and foot.....Meldrick Taylor was both.



.....and I keep hearing people talk about Taylor electing the wrong game plan and electing to brawl with Chavez???
....Taylor was a fighter who was in constant motion vs Chavez. Taylor by the Duva design, lateraled and circled the whole fight. Not once that I can remember was Meldrick taken to the ropes that night vs Chavez. Thats not easy to do against a master of cutting off the ring like Chavez was......and thats how disciplined a fight Taylor fought.

Whats amazing to me, was the amount of damage that Chavez was able to inflict on Taylor, despite not being able to pin and drive Taylor to the ropes. Indeed a testament to the presicion and placement of Chavez' shots, and his ability to still do great damage despite not being able of given the chance to drive a fighter where he wanted him.

I think it can be said that both fighters stuck and did'nt deviate from the plan. Chavez continueing to invest to the body, and willingly bateing Taylor to land two or three shots, to get off that heavy right hand that landed regularly to Taylors head thoughout the fight.

Taylor keeps getting criticized for not dancing away from Chavez late in the fight, but the reality is that his gameplan of staying off the ropes at all cost, and Chavez' persistent pressure of course, took its toll on Meldrick Taylor.

Oh how easy it is to type that Taylor was stupid and should have just danced away......oh how easy we know that all is when you've used your feet the whole night and made it mission number 1 not to get trapped on the ropes......right till the very end, Taylor fought to the plan, he stayed off the ropes the whole night, but had to pick his spots to plant his feet and punch back at Chavez in the tired state he was at to that point, to be able to avoid having to be pressured and taken to the ropes by Chavez.

At the end of the day, they both fought great.....I just wish alot more of you would realize that sometimes a fighter can be taken to a point that physically, he cant do what he wants to do in the ring.
Physically, Taylor probably wishes his legs could have been strong enough to use more of late in the fight.

Here is a fighter in Taylor that was slowly being broken down and downsized with each passing round, but nah, it was'nt Taylor's tired legs that betrayed him, it was his stupidity to want to trade with Chavez!:roll:

It happens all to often in boxing, there is a list of reasons and excuses thrown about for why a fighter lost, and not enough credit thrown to the winning fighter that prevented the losing fighter from accomplishing his objective.

 

Well, you know i never was very intereted in the fab 4 outside of Duran but you are transforming me into a Leonard fan. Good work, mate. :good

 

Don't mention it pal. Have a nice day!

 

Wouldn´t mind beeing one, he was/is a great fighter.